Yeah @tgh, I am glad you got sorted I agree wholeheartedly… The entire Roger system, is excellent, but Phonak tends to be more than a little obscure, with their lack of transparency! In their blurbs… They tell there prospective buyers, their aids have built in Roger receivers, but neglect to say, they are unlicensed, and going to cost you around £600 for a pair of (type 3 Roger X receiver’s) or around £1200 for a pair of (type 2 Educational Roger X receiver’s) Unless you buy a Roger On In device, which have (type 3) Licenses pre-installed… For the uninitiated, (type 3) work with certain devices, and (type 2 Educational) work with all Roger devices… For clarification, Roger On In devices, you can install the licenses yourself, but actual Roger X receivers require a Roger Installer, and they can be difficult to come by, usually only A.uD’s & HIS have the installer, I got mines from a South Korea eBay seller, (now around £200, counting the expedited postage) For me, it is difficult to envisage how Phonak can justify their pricing policy, Highway Robbery comes to mind, they charge what they feel like, because the can!!! Cheers Kev