Phonak Audeo Paradise P90-R vs P90-13T

DuoPhone I believe. :slight_smile:

I found DuoPhone to pick up too much background noise. I use telecoil without microphones activated for phone use, Altho I havenā€™t used it in a good while but have it, in case.

The telecoil picks up the magnetic field emitted by the handset speaker. The HA amplifies this signal instead of the microphone signal. But for this, the field must be strong enough. Unfortunately, this is not the case with many newer phones. So if it doesnā€™t work with the phone in your office, you can test it with other phones, preferably older ones. You should recognize it immediately when you hear the ringtone. There should be no ambient noise over the telecoil. For example, if you touch the microphones.

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Nope, itā€™s acoustic phone program :slight_smile:

Ask your fitter to adjust that program, to put heavy noise cancelling and other adjustments, then try.

Unfortunately, marvels and paradises donā€™t automatically switch to tcoil program, if thatā€™s what you meant.

What you do have is insane amount of static noise (depends maybe on your loss, so which frequencies are higher), to the point that I cannot use it to really comprehend someone unless Iā€™m in really quiet.
Like, Iā€™ve tried in bus, using tcoil option on aids with neckloop and screetching from powerlines I guess was unbearable and loud to the point that I really didnā€™t understand my mother on the phone. I did use public tcoil program though, not phone tcoil, maybe phone one would behave differently? I might try one day.

Your mileage may vary, so test and see for yourself how it works.

No, itā€™s only for R version.

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Yes itā€™s acoustic program but the acoustic program can have DuoPhone or telecoil activated.

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The name of the program for M/P is ā€œacoustic phoneā€. And you can enable option ā€˜duophoneā€™ in it. If Iā€™m not mistaken, before indeed was a program named duophone, no?

For tcoil you have to have another program, which is called ā€œphone via t-coilā€.

Iā€™m a brand new Phonak Paradise P90-R user. Iā€™ve used Phonak HAā€™s for about 8 yearsā€¦ this was my first full day of use.

What should I expect for rechargeable battery life?

I typically wear my HAā€™s for 17 hours a day. Today at almost 12 hours of use I got a warning of low battery charge. They are in the charger now. 9% charge/11% charge.

At lunch I changed the program; the rest of the day it appears I was in ā€œSpeech in loud noiseā€ mode. Would this setting drain the batteries in each hearing aid?

I have the P 90, 13t aids. Batteries last 6 days with lots of phone calls between 2 phones, (Work & private), and sometimes 3 hours of tv streaming a night. I usually get the low battery warning early enough to have 2 batteries ready for swapping, never had anyone complain about changing batteries while taking, in meetings or anything else.
Only issue I did have was on a long phone call with a friend, but they understand and waited while I changed them.

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This depends entirely on what situations you are in and how much bluetooth streaming you do.

So if they are at this level after just 12 hours you are using more then one would think.

So this setting would use a bit more, because itā€™s using the noise reduction features all the time, plus this could possibly be set to a higher level then normal.
Also if you have HP receivers, these also use more power.

They make some pretty bold claims tho!

So it does seem you are draining them pretty quick.

Phonak says a full charge can last 24 or more hours.

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I have had the Phonak Paradise P-90Rs for over 6 months. I also wear them for 17hrs - with maybe 2-3 hours audio streaming, 1 hour phone calls and 2hrs TV connector and I never have yet run out of battery. I did learn early on to turn off all notifications from the phone apps ( other than calls). This will help save battery but not sure how muchā€¦. Try it and see. If you expect to run low even a 10 to 15 minute charge will add 2-3 extra hours of lifeā€¦ but I rarely feel the need to do that.

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Plus Speech in Loud Noise communicates with the other Aid for the whole time itā€™s in that program, which would also drain the battery.

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Speech in loud noise does drain battery life more significantly than normal speech in noise programs due to binaural streaming.

Itā€™s the same technology Phonak seems to be using in their Cros aids, which is why they can only offer 12.5 hours of cros performance on a single charge with the rechargeable models.

Al

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You have all helped so much.

Today I turned on the HAā€™s at 7:30 am or so. I checked. 99%battery left aid; 100% battery right aid.

I left them in auto mode. It seems like Iā€™ve eaten 4% battery charge per hourā€¦so thatā€™s reassuring. Watched CBS Sunday Morning and the following program. No streaming. I havenā€™t hooked up the tv interface yet.

Your comments really help.

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Thanks that really helps.
Dave
Toronto

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Really reassuring.
Similar use patterns.

Except I havenā€™t figured out how to stream yet. My favourite music is Mystic Moods Orchestra, ā€œOne Stormy Night.ā€

Dave

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I have the CROS P70 and was surprised that the battery actually lasted 13-15 hours on a charge. That is with heavy iPhone streaming. I use my phone more than most people do, and my phone battery usually doesnā€™t last a full day without a top off charge.

But, I would go with the disposable batteries if I was a first responder. The unusual hours make it too iffy to be able to find a three hour window to recharge the batteries. I also seem to recall reading somewhere a caution against putting a partial charge on them. Iā€™m not sure why, Lion batteries arenā€™t susceptible to charge memory, so that shouldnā€™t be an issue.

Iā€™ve had my Marvel M90R rechargeable for almost two years. My typical use is ~16 hours. I intermittently stream during the day from my phone and my computer. Battery life has been reliable.

My audiology appointment is in two days and I will be ordering the Paradise P90R rechargeable. Battery life for the Paradise is supposed to be even better than the Marvel.

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So Iā€™ve had mine now for few months. I just carry batteries especially when working so when I get the chirp I can change em. I keep extras in my locker between two different jobs.

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@TraderGary Have you got the Paradise Aids yet? Are they better?

My P90-13T were ordered at my Oct 1 audiology appointment. My audiologist said that the P90-R was not available for order due to the chip shortage. He convinced me to order the 13T. So going forward I will have first hand experience with both rechargeable and disposable camps!

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@medic550 Good choice. I have always carried replacement batteries for my previous HAā€™s.

I have rechargeable ones with my latest hearing aid set. Phonak Paradise. It turns out I have enough battery life for my normal 17 hour use day. I was concerned I wouldnā€™t. Iā€™ve proven that using ā€œnoisy backgroundā€ programs really consumed a lot of battery life. I only did that one weekend day. I charged them earlyā€“8:00 pm rather than on my way to bed about 11:00 or so.

2 different jobs. Wow. Be safe.

DaveL
Toronto