What is this treble-tap? All i have in terms of tone control on my phone are the ON streaming sliders.
In iOS, you treble tap the home button and it takes you directly to the HA mic levels, programs and Live Streamer/Remote mic function without needing to find the App.
It’s like a ‘fast basic remote control’ screen.
Not seen an android equivalent.
Sorry, @Um_bongo - I was confusing treble with the treble in “treble clef” or the knobs on a guitar amp. When I Quacked it, “triple” kept coming up, and the lights went on.
[The language has gone to seed in the colonies!]
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No this is in real life.
In this scenario of a loud coffee house, I use speech in noise with Directional / Focused inputs.
There’s a new feature in the Genie 2 2021.2.1 version called Fitting Assistance under Fitting -> More Tools. Below is a screenshot which show various scenarios for your own voice and suggestions on how/what to adjust to help improve it.
It has other situations, too, beside your own voice with help to make adjustments. Also what’s nice is that you just click on either Right, Both, or Left to apply the recommended adjustment on the fly (if it’s not spelled out, click on the little “i” for Info to display it. There’s also an undo button. Sometimes they also have Additional Solutions as well.
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We had a lot of discussion in another thread that was recently closed about NNS (and other stuff around the DNN and also the differences between the More 1, 2, and 3 tiers) that really belongs more in this thread, and can be helpful to read if one is interested. So I just want to provide a link of that thread here in case anyone wants to read up on it. The relevant discussion on NNS started from thread # 346 (or 347?) with a post from @JeremyDC onward all the way to near the end of the thread before it got closed.
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Yes, @Volusiano, it’s a shame that thread was closed. A lot of interesting stuff came stuff came up for discussion before it got shut down.
I tried to have a tread that gave my experience with my aids, and as much my fault as anything the treat was basically taken away from me and taken over by everything but what I had in mind so I asked that it be closed. And I don’t regret doing so.
Oh, I’m sure you had your reasons, Chuck - we’re only saying that it’s too bad, that’s all.
Yeah, it’s really no big deal about the thread being closed. This is a more appropriate place for that discussion anyway. And if it had been made known right up front that Chuck would have liked to see the discussion moved somewhere else, I’m sure everyone would have gladly obliged.
Although it admittedly took on the tone of becoming Chuck’s documentation of his personal experience with the More throughout that thread, the title of that thread really didn’t clearly make it seem to be exclusive as such. So I can see someone going through the thread like @JeremyDC thinking that it’d be OK to throw in More 1 related questions when looking for answers, and not have it be considered off-topic anyway.
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Welcome to the internet. Posters shouldn’t realistically have any expectation of control over what’s posted in a thread once it’s started. Thread drift is a fact of life, just like in person conversations can be very fluid.
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Yes, I thought it was where I should post since it was a topic about the Oticon More aids. Oh well, I guess next time I will start a new topic or ask if it is ok. That is probably best.
I’m hoping that, somewhere in the near future, we can get the momentum back on some of the technical stuff. I found out unequivocally from reading around some of the things posted, why my poor old Unitron North Moxi Fit 800 never worked for me. They were designed specifically to exclude everything except human speech and that comes straight from the manufacturer.
This was a question that’s being nagging at me for 7 years. So - it wasn’t all poor fitting that was at the root of my dissatisfaction - but it doesn’t exculpate the audiologist because I specifically told her that I didn’t want HAs that operated that way.
So, discussion of the technical aspects of More1s has brought me a better understanding of all HAs, and has reinforced in my mind that Oticon has a different approach. I’m not saying better - just different (in a way that I prefer, but that you may not).
BTW - I had my first “WOW Moment” with my More1s this morning. I dropped in to see my friends - brothers who operate a large car/truck mechanical shop in town. Busy. Loud!
I was talking striper fishing with 2 of the brothers when the guys working on a truck in the next bay fired up the pneumatic impact wrench. The default program on my More1s could not deal with that. (Although I find that it is sufficient for 90% of the situations I encounter.)
I used my trusty Genuine Oticon®️Brand ConnectClip to toggle to the Speech in Noise program. The voices literally popped out of the noise, which was strongly attenuated, and I was able to enjoy the rest of the conversation with my friends.
In this case, I can report without hesitation that the difference between the two programs was definitely in WOW territory.
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So the Untiron North Moxi Fit 800 does not even allow something like a Music program that acts like a wide-open analog HA that minimizes most of the signal processing like compression and noise reduction?
Yes, of course it does, just as Mores have a beam- forming option. But that’s not the core design philosophy.
It’s only “marketing speak”, but it describes my experience wearing Unitron North Moxi Fit 800, which almost always selected a noisy environment (unbeknownst to me for literally years, because my audiologist never explained it to me!), which prevented me from hearing the non-speech sounds around me that I need to hear.
Yeah, OK. I understand. The Oticon HAs using the open paradigm gives you both an open experience AND speech clarity at the same time. They don’t have to be mutually exclusive like with the Unitron.
Newer HAs can do autosense to hunt for environmental changes and automatically switch back and forth between programs for you, but that’s still not as smooth as just being able to stay in your main program 90% of the times.
Let’s not forget that the Unitron North Moxi Fit 800 that I’m talking about is 7-year-old technology, and that Unitron is a sister company to Phonak. As is the case with, let’s say, Oticon, Brenafon, and Phillips (who share feedback suppression technology amongst themselves) they probably share a lot of the same “autosense” technology, beneath the surface.
I’m bringing up the shared aspect of Unitron bPhonak because I believe that my Moxi Fits were giving me the same grief that members are discussing in these topics:
At any rate, the overall behaviour and performance of these hearing aids made them a poor match for treating my hearing loss. This poor match was further exacerbated by a poor fit. These devices were just not an effective solution for me, although others who use the same aids might be of a different opinion.
One of the aspects of my Genuine Oticon®️ Brand More1 Hearing Instruments that suits me best is that the default program (based on Oticon’s proprietary VAC+ fitting rationale) handles 90% of the situations I encounter just using its native settings, which my audiologist and I tweak a little bit more at each appointment,similar to what Chuck @cvkemp does.
The other 10% of my situational needs are handled by my Speech in Noise program, which I’ve recently commented on. (The jury is still out on the MyMusic program. I’m using my main default program for my music, for the time being. The sound quality is quite acceptable, and - to my ears, at least - has greater fidelity to the source than MyMusic, which is the “Blue Pill”.)
I don’t know how much it was improved on the Paradise, but the Marvel’s I trialed last year were awful.
Autosense is very inacurrate, and at times jarring in how it shapes the soundfield.
I guess, coming from the OPN paradigm, it just was never gonna work for me.
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