I’m rarely a passenger in a car but I’ve tried many presets for hearing others talk in the car, and like you, none have really helped (speech in noise, comfort in echo, speech in car, speech in loud noise). I do wonder if a Phonak PartnerMic would be a solution for this environment? Although it still costs a lot, it’s way cheaper than getting Roger mics and licenses installed. It wouldn’t help in restaurants (unless you pass it round ), but I rarely carry my RogerOn either. I thoroughly recommend the TV Connector.
The PartnerMic does help in that situation as with restaurants,especially if you can mute the aids. These units can be found second-hand and do not require any audiologist changing any settings other than enabling the “mute” function if it is not enabled.
Thank you for your input @TomHalf … We love to hear some elements of success on here, it gives us all hope… As @Baltazard said, a remote Roger Mic, is possibly your best option for communication in a vehicle, I am most fortunate, I have several, but I shop around eBay, and hunt the bargains down, killing the hearing aid Mics whilst using Roger, will enhance the clarity, you switch these off in the app btw @PeterH, I am just about set up, for xbox series x flight simulator, I gutted one of our bedrooms, stripped everything out, new floor, new computer desk, sofa bed, to give me more room (looks good) all my computers are in there, got the joystick and thruster, also got the steering column, gearshift, and pedals, for driving games… Samsung 32inch, curved monitor, 240htz, 1ms response time, picture clarity is unreal… plugged in a TV connector 2 for sound, wired in a Fire Cube, I now have access to every TV channel known to man, with a certain app… Cheers Kev
@kevels55
That’s brilliant. There’s loads on YouTube to help you set up the stick etc. Currently flying round the world, and just landed at Hanoi. I’m learning so much about places while doing this. Can’t always use Live weather (especially in the UK) as “clouds sometimes have rocks!” All this, and time shifting is possible to be changed though.
I might just look for a cheap PartnerMic, although I doubt my wife would like it on all the time, or I’d hear her cursing me under her breath
I had a bad experience last Friday. I went to a parents college open day with my daughter and had horrendous trouble understanding people in noise - on several occasions. It was embarrassing as I usually put faith in my devices (unitron Moxi v-rt - lumity equivalent) to hear on a one to one situation. I know that it is difficult to hear in groups, but usually I can hear when I am facing people one to one. Not this time - there was noise reduction, but the noise reduction also reduced the speakers to the extent that I could not hear anything.
As I’m within my Specsavers trial, I am taking back the Specsavers Advance (Unitron Moxi v-rt) and will be upgrading to the Phonak Lumity Naida 90 UP BTE. What I am hoping for is that the speech in loud noise program kicks in, as it certainly did not appear to with the Unitron Moxi. I don’t know if this is because it did - and was useless, or was just not automatic. Either way, I felt like a man on a boat drifting at sea without a sail. A very bad experience.
The Nadia’s have been ordered and I will post my review once I get them.
Thank you Peter I was out for lunch today with my wife Elspeth, she was using one of my “Roger Selects” in presenter/lanyard mode, struggling slightly to keep the hearing aids Mics switched off, the Mics switch back on, when I exit the app, most annoying, so perhaps, I will have to delve into “Target” to rectify, if I can? That being said, I didn’t miss any of the conversation in the car or indeed the very busy restaurant, it’s bright and airy, hardwood floor, at least a 20 foot high ceiling, with the reverberation of approximately 100 folk talking away in the background, 1 to 1, in lanyard mode, the select handles this with ease, in a totally hostile hearing aid environment, it is indeed an excellent piece of kit… On another note Peter, I reached the Ross-Shire 8 Ball Pool League Singles Final, my 7th Ross-Shire League Singles Final, my first was 40 odd years ago, in the early eighties, I stopped playing that League, for around 30 years, from 2012 I started to play that league again, I have been in the final, 6 times since, winning only 2 of them, but at 67yo, any final is sweet, I still play in the Inverness Premier League, perhaps a little bit of renaissance in my dotage? We didn’t play the final, one of the earlier participants got pissed, after he went out, and fell down the venue stairs, multiple skull fractures, and brain bleed, 4 paramedics around him, he is a good friend, so we canceled the final to be played at a later date… Thankfully, he is now on the mend… Cheers Kev
Yeah @DaveL … I would be inclined to go for a Naida SP or UP with your loss, on your next iteration via “Workers Comp”… IMO, nothing sounds better than a BTE, and yes, RIC’s are good, but a BTE sounds way better… Cheers Kev
Hi @glucas, I don’t think you will be disappointed with the “Naida Lumity UP 90 BTE’s”, they are indeed excellent hearing aids… Having said that, as you are acutely aware, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and @michael1 didn’t do well with the Naida Lumity 90’s, but I am almost certain, it was his A.uD that was lacking, as opposed to to the actual hearing aids… Good Luck with your trial… Cheers Kev
Yes. Agreed, I could just upgrade to the Audeo Lumity proper. As I am suspicious that the Unitron Moxi is working in the same way. Actually, I believe it must be working in the same way, but then it would not do any harm to get the Audeo Lumity to see if there is a difference.
However, I have another problem. The bass on the RIC UP is not ideal. I have discovered with my NHS Dynamo hearing aids, bass and music sounds a lot lot better. So that’s one reason for wanting to switch to the Nadia. Not because it’s a super power aid, but because it’s a BTE. If there was just a BTE Lumity I would switch to that, as I am not in the profound category. Just severe to profound.
I am hoping as well that the Nadia anyway has some additional features that help people in the severe to profound loss category.
The V just stands for the Vivante range. It’s the latest premium offering from Unitron, equivalent to the Lumity. The RT or R then denotes Rechargeable/Telecoil or just Rechargeable. (Or maybe RIC!) one or the other.
@kevels55
Wow, it sounds like he’s lucky to have survived. You did the right thing. You’re clearly a far better player than me. I’m just not consistent enough. I can beat anyone, but also get beat by anyone. Some of our league travel south to Great Yarmouth every year… I think a few only go for the beer mind. I’m frankly surprised I’ve never been
Peter
The Audi who dispensed my second set of Phonaks on workman’s comp said I needed them. I was a client for 8 years there.
His HA I couldn’t understand speech in noise. Couldn’t hear behind. Work wasn’t safe.
I left when business was sold
The new Audi convinced workman’s comp I needed new hearing aids. He worked a miracle getting them
He made changes and saved programs in his office as I watched.
They worked until my final appointment.
He hooked up my Paradise P90s. We talked. As we talked he scrubbed my hearing aids. He explained my hearing loss due to loud noise had improved and created an Audiogram that showed it. He explained my hearing aids would be quieter.
He said he would recommend 3 Audis I might contact. We parted friendly after a hand shake
Found out later all programs were gone. He had taken a year and a half and lots of appointments. That work was gone.
Went home. Had to pair my hearing aids to the APP
I appreciate the wonderful audiologists and practitioners we have here
I’ve been self employed and kept a roof over my head. He spent lots of time but his setup was awful
I respect that he got me excellent hearing aids. I worked with him at his request. I’m happy he suggested I find someone new. I’m more than ticked how he did it. I had to go somewhere else and the setup is much better.
), but I rarely carry my RogerOn either. I thoroughly recommend the TV Connector.
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I was out for lunch today with my wife Elspeth, she was using one of my “Roger Selects” in presenter/lanyard mode, struggling slightly to keep the hearing aids Mics switched off, the Mics switch back on, when I exit the app, most annoying, so perhaps, I will have to delve into “Target” to rectify, if I can? That being said, I didn’t miss any of the conversation in the car or indeed the very busy restaurant, it’s bright and airy, hardwood floor, at least a 20 foot high ceiling, with the reverberation of approximately 100 folk talking away in the background, 1 to 1, in lanyard mode, the select handles this with ease, in a totally hostile hearing aid environment, it is indeed an excellent piece of kit… On another note Peter, I reached the Ross-Shire 8 Ball Pool League Singles Final, my 7th Ross-Shire League Singles Final, my first was 40 odd years ago, in the early eighties, I stopped playing that League, for around 30 years, from 2012 I started to play that league again, I have been in the final, 6 times since, winning only 2 of them, but at 67yo, any final is sweet, I still play in the Inverness Premier League, perhaps a little bit of renaissance in my dotage? We didn’t play the final, one of the earlier participants got pissed, after he went out, and fell down the venue stairs, multiple skull fractures, and brain bleed, 4 paramedics around him, he is a good friend, so we canceled the final to be played at a later date… Thankfully, he is now on the mend… Cheers Kev 
