I don’t have a pro’s knowledge, but just a layman person’s opinion here, that the situations where the Sudden Sound Stabilizer can add value in terms of improving Speech in Noise understanding is if you’re in a noisy situation where sudden sounds is recurring very often. For example, you sit at a table near the kitchen or dishwashing area where the sudden sound of clanging dishes is constantly happening every second. Or if you sit at a table close to a loud speaker where loud music is blaring constantly.
Of course if you have recruitment, then I’m sure the Sudden Sound Stabilizer would be of tremendous help regardless. Even if you don’t have recruitment, but sudden sounds tend to make you jump and get unsettled and take you a long time to recover, then that can affect your ability to follow a conversation while it’s happening.
But overall, I think that Oticon is running out of things where they can improve, so now they have to resort to solving issues that have less impact (no pun intended) in order to justify a new model release. Of course many will say why don’t they try improving the SNR even more than they already can instead of focusing on less-than-impactful issues. Well, maybe they’ve already done as much as they can for SNR unless they find something else groundbreaking enough to reach that holy grail. But the Sudden Sound Stabilizer and the Wind & Handling Stabilizer are supposed to help with improving SNR as well, albeit just for that short duration when sudden sounds occur.
@ziploc → I think it’s basically a reduced tolerance to loudness. People with recruitment cannot stand loud sounds. They perceive sounds to get too loud too fast for them to handle a lot of times.
It’s not to be confused with hyperacusis which is a super-sensitivity to normal sounds.
Ok. I looked up recruitment. Maybe I do have it. I have an acoustic neuroma in my left ear that was treated by Gamma Knife almost six years ago.
My experience as a musician in an amplified acoustic duo before the AN was treated was that I could hear my partner’s stage monitor that was turned a little toward me. The sound coming from his monitor sounded like an atonal roar, rather than clear vocals and guitar. Does this sound like recruitment?
I’ve had to be very careful since the Gamma Knife treatment to make sure that any stage monitoring sound comes at me from my right side so as to minimize that “atonal roar” effect. Although I am performing much less often these days, and since I’m doing mostly solo acoustic gigs, I have much more control over the placement of any stage monitors. But, subjectively, it seems like the “atonal roar” sensation has diminished as my hearing in the affected ear has stabilized over the years since Gamma Knife.
Maybe I’m just the kind of user that the sudden sound stabilizer might help, as far as speech-in-noise comprehension. What does anyone here think? Thank you.
As far as I know my audi just set them up for my audiogram as a new use and had REM make adjustments. Other than adding the music program because I specifically asked, I doubt she adjusted anything else. I will be seeing a different audi in about a week and a half who has worked more with Oticon. I had what could have been some good testing today but am very disappointed with my speech hearing. Perhaps, as I am getting used to the aids, they need further adjustment.
I don’t remember while I was reading the Oticon whitepaper on Sudden Sound Stabilizer that they specifically mention it to help with recruitment, so I’m not 100% sure if it would help, although it seems like it should, given the nature of what it does. But maybe there is more to the physiology of recruitment that only a professional would have insights to in order to make better inference to its helpfulness w.r.t. recruitment or not.
Oticon should have significantly longer battery runtime due to their use of Bluetooth LE instead of the power hungry classic. What type of phone do you have? Oticon may require a connect clip for some Android phones.
Hi @Volusiano , How about using Xceed UP 1 for my type of hearing loss. Any special molds needed in my case? Zebra told me that he just bought a pair at eBay at a very low cost.
Your kind reply with some Genie 2 photos is highly appreciated.
Have a nice day.
Sorry for not noticing this sooner. Also sorry if this has been pointed out in some other discussion. Oticon came out with wireless/inductive charging way back in 2019-Q1 with the Opn S model. Scroll to the last page to find inductive/wireless charging in this → Link.
By comparison Phonak recently introduced wireless/inductive charging in 2022-Q3 beginning with the Audéo Lumity Life-model (2022-Q3 Audéo L-RL RIC = Inductive charging).
But here’s what I want to point out. Phonak has two different models with embedded coils and Telecoil is only available in the first model.
2022-Q3 Audéo L-RT RIC = Telecoil
2022-Q3 Audéo L-RL RIC = Inductive charging
But with Oticon it seems that their engineers have perhaps managed to make a dual purpose coil because all of their inductive charging models beginning with the Opn S, and then More, and also Real have both;
Telecoil which requires an embedded coil
inductive charging which requires an embedded coil
Here’s older Opn technology with separate Telecoil model the right side of your screen;
Here’s the newer OpnS-More-Real technology separate Telecoil model the right side of your screen. One might ask, Why have two different models? One model has disposable batteries.
Well Signia seems to have separate coil technology like Phonak. Maybe only Oticon has this dual purpose coil? Or is it two embedded coils packed into one hearing aid?
I think the Xceed UP 1 is probably more suitable to your type of severe hearing loss because it’s the Ultra Power class, hopefully with enough amplification to be able to meet with your severe hearing loss. Below is a screenshot of the Xceed UP 1 set up. It shows that it should cover up to 115 dB loss, which is not quite 100% for your 120 dB loss, but definitely close enough.
The receiver for the Xceed UP 1 in inside the hearing aid itself, so for sure you will need a custom mold for your ear canal, but there will be no receiver inside that mold. The second screenshot below shows the various options you have for the tube size and vent option, etc. to conduct the sound from the receiver-in-the-shell into your ear canal.
On second thought about the reason for Oticon not having separate models for Telecoil; I don’t believe it’s new technology. I think it’s more likely they have two magnetic coils, one for inductive charging, and one for Telecoil.
Oticon probably decided to eliminate extra models by always including Telecoil on all models except for some custom that are too small.
Or possibly engineered the coil to do both (and pick up the BLE too?): the aid isn’t physically bigger. It’s possible to inductively charge at a very low or high frequency outside of the audible operating range of the aid. This makes sense as the audible function isn’t risked by interference from other inputs.
