Xceed UP does cover up to 120 dB. That’s why it says 120 on the audiogram chart.
Select the Xceed SP and it doesn’t say 120 as it has less power. Just checked Xceed SP goes to 110 dB.
When I programmed my friends Oticon Engage, it says 85 as it covers 85 dB.
I would get the UP is you do go ahead with the Xceed.
The part on the right is if you want to use Direct Input Leads or the Phonak Roger Set Up.
Taking my own sweet to surf the eBay UK, USA or Singapore to get a pair of Xceed 1 BTE UP. Hope it improve my type of hearing loss. The curve flat down at 120dB and then goes up again. Not sure whether “rock bottom” is called the dead spot!. I might consider CI until all the effort is exhausted. If Xceed UP is able to hear in noisy environment by 60-70%, then I would be very happy. Now the More 1 has improve the left ear but the right is bad. Very stressful in noisy environment.
I know everyone is different but the Xceed has actually allowed me to know what noise I’m listening to where my Phonak’s were just all noise.
I feel like I’m hearing more clearly and also more sharp as well which is nice.
@Zebras seeing what you have just said about your change over from phonak to oticon makes me think maybe i should push to try the oticon cros at my next appointment. To see if it handle’s the sounds differently because the way i feel at the moment about my current cros is that in noisy situtations it is just nothing but noise and that i can’t really make out speech from what is going on in the background so just end up taking them out. I feel there is no difference from the way things sound muffled in a noisy situation with them in to how things sound without them in. Unless they can make a massive improvement with some adjustments.
Thanks UB for your thoughts about “possibly engineering the coil to do both (and pick up the BLE too?)”. I was being conservative by assuming it was simply two coils without any new technology advancement.
Also, at first glance I thought this technology was new for the Oticon Real model. But then Oticon More has the same configuration. That is, no separate model for Telecoil, or Telecoil always included (whichever way you want to describe it).
I had to look back to four years ago during the transition from model Opn to Opn S to find out when Oticon decided to build Telecoils without creating a separate HA model. AFAIK; Only Oticon does it this way. And, if this is a new technology advancement (a dual purpose coil) then kudos to Oticon engineers.
I hear more background noise but I’m able to know what I’m hearing. Things are also sharp.
The Phonaks didn’t allow me to hear enough but what I heard, was just noise that sounded like the same.
If I were you, I would ask to try the Oticon as the technology is massively better then your current Phonak as your current Phonak CROS II came out in 2015.
@Zebras thank you i think i will do that as for me even making out more of what the background noise is.Would be better than not making out anything and being overwhelmed by just hearing a large amount of muffled sounds that clash together and make me feel exhausted by trying to make out what people are saying.
@Zebras → Sorry, you’re right. I thought it was very the bottom line that’s the marker for the 120 dB level at a quick glance, but upon close examination, it’s the line just above that, which coincides with the thick black line, that’s the 120 dB line.
I’ve been away for a week due to a major home move. I have a question. Let’s say I had all the money in the world. Let’s say I had money to just burn. If that were the case, do we know that this the “real” iteration is worth getting over the more 1.
And are there real 1s? Real 2s and 3s?
Real 1s would be a just plain funny name.
Unless you are particularly bothered by sudden loud noises or wind noise, I’m guessing you would
not notice a difference between the More 1. It will likely be a fine hearing aid, but it’s unlikely to be a dramatic improvement. Yes, there should be Real 1, 2 and 3 models.
Thanks @MDB It was windy the other day and I noticed it, but it has to be really windy for me to hear wind noise. At my level of hearing loss I hear no sudden loud noises. So? For me? I guess I’m not up for a real one, so to speak.
Yes and no. Yes, there are three Real models (Real1, Real2, and Real3). But the latter are just defeatured versions of the same widget.
Here’s a link to the → Real Product Matrix for comparison of the three models.
I am getting my More 1 exchanged for Real 1 aids. Since I am in the trial period there is no charge to exchange. Currently with the More I do notice sudden sounds more.
@prodigyplace that’s the thing… Looking at your audiogram I don’t doubt one bit that you hear sudden sounds more. If you look at my audiogram, you can see that I wouldn’t. My loss is minor. Enjoy the Real one!
I think you’re going to be one of the first contributors in the forum to have a direct experience with both the More and now the Real to be able to compare and share your experience of the difference between them, especially if sudden sounds in the More are noticeable to you. So I think a lot of us are going to be very interested in hearing from you after you’ve had a chance to give the Real a good whirl.
For anyone who is going to go through the normal channel to get Oticon aids, even if sudden sounds and wind have never been an issue for them, I don’t see why anyone would want to choose to remain with the More anyway, unless there’s a financial incentive to pick the More over the Real (like buying from eBay, for example). But from what I hear, their pricing is going to be the same through the official HCP channel.
Really,I don’t think we can tell what’s reality anymore ; )
You indeed do have a minor loss. My daughter has normal hearing, but she’s still very sensitive to sudden and loud sounds. My son also has normal hearing, and sudden and loud sounds doesn’t bother him as much. So I think it very much depends on the individuals. Also, in your case, your wide open vent already lets the sudden loud sounds in naturally, so whatever the feature does to dampen the sudden loud sounds out of your receiver, it would not help with anything because you’ll get the full brunt of the sound through the open vent anyway. So if you’re already accustomed to it (like my son is), then it wouldn’t do a thing for you, but it’s your brain hearing that shields you from the loud sounds, not this new feature.
Your question brings up an interesting thought. I wonder if this sudden & loud sound stabilizer feature would help act as a hearing protector of some sort for hard of hearing folks? I remember reading in lots of places before that one should never count on using hearing aids as a hearing protection device. I wonder if this changes that or not?
Of course for folks with milder hearing loss like yourself, the open vent already lets the loud sounds in naturally through the vent, so this feature doesn’t help these folks much anyway, even if they are adversed to loud sounds like my daughter. But for folks with more severe hearing loss and wears custom domes with closed vent, how they would feel if they went to a rock concert, for example?
One caution though. The audiologist fitting the More is not experienced with Oticon and is a relatively new graduate. I think my More experience is sub optimal although I have had some promising results.
She basically just did initial programming and a pretty thorough REM. The aids were left as initial fitting even though I am an experienced user. I believe the power domes were likely a mistake and keep backing out of the ears. I had initially suggested molds but she wanted to try domes.
The new audiologist is experienced in Oticon and, on the phone, was interested in my canal shape when I mentioned the possibility of custom molds. If the aids come in. I get them Wednesday.
There is no price difference and, for me, it was offered at no additional cost.
