Oticon More Power BTE version availability

I think it will be closer to Autumn.

New Phonak Naida Lumity UP was released. Still no new oticon BTE UP aid. :frowning:

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Yeah @hearing-love_loss… I believe 5 years since Xceed was released, tis a long time in the technological aspect alone! This will be Phonaks 3rd iteration of the Naida since the Xceed, it would appear Oticon have lost interest in this niche market? Cheer Kev :wink:

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I think Oticon took a break because they maybe wants to replace old anchor drive type receivers to solid state receivers. They are much flatter, so receiver with 120 dB power may be placed into ear canal, or make less sized BTE.

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Maybe @Lostdeaf, either way, they are most certainly taking their time in the R & D process! I hope it’s worth the wait for the Oticon fallowing. Cheers Kev :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Dynamo was released in 2015. Xceed was released in August 2019. Hearing aids, information on hearing loss and tinnitus | Oticon
So it was time for Oticon to release new SP/UP aids in 2023.

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I stand corrected @hearing-love_loss…Thank you :grin: TBH, I am not a great lover of Oticon aids, I have worn a few sets in the past, but given the choice, I will always opt for Phonak Naida’s… Subsequently, 4 years is still a fairly long time to wait for those whom prefer Oticon UP’s… Cheers Kev :wink:

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Oticon Intent got released only in miniRITE form. Where is brand spanking new BTE Super/Power aid, oticon? :face_with_symbols_over_mouth:

This thread was started in 2021. How the time flies.

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I think Oticon have completely stopped developing superpower hearing aids. They have a business, and they are looking only for profitable directions. So our poor hearing is only our problem.

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I remember that you are wearing oticon Xceed. Which modern Power aid are you looking to upgrade to: Starkey evolv AI or Phonal Lumity UP?

I believe @Lostdeaf would much prefer a newer UP aid from Oticon, I think he has the Xceed? I am thinking they will at some point release a 675 UP version, the question is when… Hopefully for those who love their Oticon aids, that will happen in the not too distant future, both Oticon & Phonak, need good healthy competition, too drive on innovation, for those in the severe/profound threshold’s, arguably the most challenging form of aided hearing loss? The other hearing aid manufacturers, do not appear to be very interested, and it’s probably the smallest segment of the overall market… Although personally, Oticon is not my preferred hearing aid, I have way too many Roger devices, but I would love to see a new Oticon UP aid, for you guys… Cheers Kev :wink:

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Thank you Kev! I am very touched by your attention, and I also hope for the best.

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Yes, I have two pairs of Oticon Xceed (1 and 2 feature levels, both of SP power level). I think I can wait with them - but if they break ahead of schedule, I’ll switch to Phonak Naida UP. We have not other superpower models here.

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I miss the way oticon sounded and how less aggressive the noise suppression was. I have kept my old 105db receivers with the custom molds.

I began to consider purchasing second hand Oticon Real 1 on eBay. There was one auction which was stalled at $480 but suddenIy jumped to $1250 in the last hours. :frowning: There were 2 other Buy It Now listings for $1000 and they sold fairly quickly.

Or should I consider buying Oticom More 1 for $750?

I went ahead and bought a pair of used Real 1 with replaceable batteries for $999. Will post review as soon as they arrive.

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I received my Real 1 pair last Thursday, but only got to the clinic yesterday due to holidays. My oticon-affiliated clinic does not have REM equipment (neither any clinic in my country for that matter). The aids were set up according to my latest audiogram. The front speakers’ speech sounds OK, but it does not have the wow-factor as described by other forum members. Maybe I am missing something? :thinking: :roll_eyes: I did not understand the words spoken on TV on default settings while according to forum posts, I should hear the same if not better than normal-hearing people. Does any DIYer has any tips for me how to achieve optimal settings without REM?

If REM is not available by your HCP or because you’re a DIY’er, really the only thing you can do is in-situ audiometry to see if it’s different than your original audiogram or not, and if yes, re-prescribe based on the in-situ audiogram.

If you get lucky and your hearing aids’ whole system perform up to target, then you’ll probably need fewer incremental adjustments than necessary to get to the point of satisfaction. Of course you wouldn’t know this anyway unless REM is done and the REM result shows that you’re close to target and no or little adjustment is necessary to bring up to target.

But as a DIY’er, you make up for the lack of REM with the ability to make very rapid and incremental and continuous adjustments until you’re totally satisfied with the aids’ performance, simply because you can adjust as often as several times a day if you want, instead of having to wait a few weeks for an appointment with an HCP to achieve the same thing.

Of course, this is if you know how to adjust properly, and are disciplined about keeping track to be able to backtrack to a previous version if you’re not happy with your adjustment. Fortunately, Oticon Genie 2 has a new feature (actually been out for a while now) called Fitting Assistant. Using it, you can choose from a list of issues and let the Fitting Assistant recommend and implement the changes for you to help with adjustments.

In terms of looking for a wow factor from the Real, it’s entirely possible that the wow factor only comes from certain listening situations. For example, in quiet environments, you probably won’t see a wow factor there. It’s more likely to see improvements in more difficult environments. I think your expectation is probably way too high on the Real simply based on your comment that you should hear the same if not better than normal-hearing people when listening to people talking on TV. Your hearing loss is pretty significant to begin with. The best you can hope for is to be able to understand speech from the TV, not to be able to hear the same if not better than normal-hearing people w.r.t. listening to the TV to begin with.

Also don’t automatically assume that REM is going to be the magic bullet that will automatically be able resolve your dissatisfaction with your hearing aids’ performance. Like I mentioned earlier, REM can help get you to target faster, but there’s also a chance that you’re already close enough to target that REM is either not necessary and very little REM adjustment would be made to bring up to target anyway. The thing is you’d never know one way or the other unless the REM measurement is done. REM is kinda like buying insurance. You might need it, or you might not need it. That’s why it’s called a best practice, not an absolute requirement.

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The good thing about my hearing clinic is that they are not overwhelmed by Oticon customers and I can drop in anytime from Monday to Friday. Besides, I am personal friends with the director and audiologist, so I am welcome anytime.

What do you think about https://hearingtest.online/ ? Should anyone with the properly calibrated aids be able to hear all the lowest quiet sounds? In other words, can this test be used for determining whether anyone needs to apply more gain? This is what my test results with 100% volume on headphones and default program on aids looks like.
Your personal audiogram (as taken on )

My opinion is that this kind of online hearing test is just an attempt as a replacement for a real audiometry hearing test that an HCP would do in a quiet sound booth.

There’s a reason why HCPs don’t use the audiometry test as a metric to gauge the performance of a pair of hearing aids, meaning that they hook you up with headphones like before except that this time you have your hearing aids on to see if now you can hear all the threshold tones at 0 or 10 dB or not. That’s because HA mfgs don’t make it their goal to design HAs that can just pass a threshold audiometry test and can do nothing else. That’s just a single and simple metric, and designing HAs to pass a threshold level is totally different than designing HAs that can deal with many different input sound levels appropriately.

I definitely don’t think that using the audiometry test together with the HA on, as a metric in determining whether you should apply more gain, is effective. I think your best bet is to judge using what your brain hearing tells you and make incremental adjustments as a DIY’e or with your HCP is a better approach. If you don’t have an HCP to do this for you, and you’re not sure on what to do yourself, then perhaps the Oticon Genie 2 Fitting Assistant is your next best bet.

312 batteries in Real 1 last for about 60 hours. Compare that to reported usability of only ~15 hours of rechargeable version. :joy: