New Phonak Lumity hearing aids with disposable batteries released!

It basically open and closes the vent,its a mechanically switching vent, so go from open to closed, I didnā€™t like them, I could hear it going back and forth, I probably could of got used to it, but a couple of weeks was enough for me.

My apologies. I actually have the Naida Lumity L90-UP. It uses a 675 battery, and not the 312. (Unfortunately, I donā€™t know that I can delete my erroneous post.) I had been hoping that Phonak would release a disposable Lumity, and was excited when I saw the press release in August 2023.

Anyway, the 675 battery must have a lot more capacity than the 312, so ignore my 14 day use when deciding if youā€™re going to go with a 312 version. I still do greatly prefer the benefits of a disposable aid compared to rechargeable.

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Yeah that makes more sense, those 675 are about 221 hours, so I lot more than the 312.
If you want to delete any of your posts you can click on the 3 dots at the bottom of your post, you should get an option to delete, I wouldnā€™t worry about it, simple mistake no big deal.

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I love the tap control feature. Sometimes it doesnā€™t work properly because it doesnā€™t detect tapping, but in that case I tap again. ā€¦ No one here mentioned one detail why people like tap sensor? Because hearing aids are small and fingers are large, it is more problematic to answer a call or pause music when a button is pressed. The tap control made it possible for me to use it even when Iā€™m wearing a winter hat or jacket hood.

I have owned quite a few hearing aids with 312 batteries. My my loss profile, they typically lasted 3-4 days with moderate streaming via either the Phone Clip+ (Resound) or Compilot (Phonak). Lumity uses Bluetooth Classic (which uses more power than the Phone Clip or Compilot) so my guess is that the 312 disposable batteries will last 2-3 days with moderate streaming.

I still prefer the rechargeable version. 2-3 days means that I would have to go back to stashing batteries in my pocket, office, car, etc. Just my personal preference.

Jordan

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doing the same :expressionless:

@JordanK

I understand.
I donā€™t think I adapt well to change.

Yesterday seemed a normal day. However, my rechargeable Paradise batteries only lasted from 7:00 am to 5:00 pm something. I put them upstairs to charge and shut the door. Dinner I couldnā€™t hear a thing. They charged for just over 2 hours. I had about 65% charge when I started using them again.

Iā€™m used to carrying spare batteries. I had them for about18 years. Maybe a little longer.

I have a puppy. Concerns:

  • he might eat my hearing aids if I leave them about
  • he might swallow a button battery if I drop it and donā€™t hear it when it hits the floor.
  • chances of hearing a pill or button battery hit the floor are slim to none.

In that regard rechargeable batteries are much better than a box of 40 batteries!

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I get that some people donā€™t like having to ensure they have spare batteries on hand wherever they are. Since Iā€™ve had to do this for 25+ years, I couldnā€™t care less. Until a rechargeable actually lasts me more than 16 hours, disposable is the way for me. I have Audeo L90-RT and would gladly give up the R and T and tap control for L90-312. Even if the lifespan were 2-3 days, Iā€™d survive, though I suspect itā€™s at least a few days longer.

I travel frequently. 16-20 hour days, sometimes longer, are a normal occurrence for me. The annoyance of having to stop somewhere along the way to pop them out and put in a charger, even if itā€™s just 20 minutes (and for my peace of mind I try to do 30+ minutes of charging), really impacts the flow of my day. I donā€™t like not being able to hear even for that brief period, particularly if Iā€™m at an office or mid-travel.

I would love a trade-in option to switch over. 18 months between Audeo L-R/RT/RL and L-312 releases is absurd. Since a trade is not possible, at this point Iā€™m going to deal with it until LE Audio is more widespread since that will most likely come in the next generation of Phonak devices anyway, and there might be some Auracast public facilities by then.

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Plenty of optical audio splitters on Amazon or most electronics stores. I happen to have this one I randomly chose to purchase.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0749G18PF

It is a little weird if the soundbar volume is loud enough/Iā€™m close to it that I hear kind of as stereo/echo effect - Iā€™m hearing the soundbar via my hearing aid microphones plus the TV streamer signal. Easy enough to adjust the balance of stream vs surround in the app if itā€™s a nuisance, but it isnā€™t for me.

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BTW some people are moaning because they donā€™t want to move around with battery or having some everywhere.
But what is with always have to put off the aids on the same place? :wink:
E.g. if i bring my kids to bed and I feel tired and want to go sleep, I have to move downwards to put them in the recharger, with the battery modell I can put them withouth any problems on the nightdesk.
Or what if you went on vacation and fortget to take your charger with you? What if your power plug isnā€™t compatible with the sockets?

I see the point for both, but I feel more free with battery model than with the recharchable ones.

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Could you confirm what hearing aids you have. To best of my knowledge Phonak had BTE Lumity versions back in November in size 13 and size 675 battery. From your 14 day battery life, Iā€™m guessing 675 battery. 14 days out of a 312 would be truly incredible.

A few posts back he corrected himself. He has the Naida aids with 675 batteries.

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Yes, I misspoke. I have the Naida Lumity L90-UP. It uses a 675 battery, and not the 312.

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OK - so personal experience here. When I used to have Phonak Audeo B size 312 batts, indeed they only lasted 4-5 days MAX. I wasnā€™t even streaming phone calls daily like I do now. My Marvel 13-batts gave me just about 6 days of use, but since theyā€™d conk out on Day 6, I always changed them first thing that morning, Day 6.

I can totally get how Lumity Life 312s would only give me 3 days or so. And Iā€™d be happy with that! Other than tap control (never used) and the other ActiveVent (no idea what that is), Iā€™d still get the Roger ON iN compatibility and BT streaming to devices. Goes without saying that any battery-operated aid is simply not going to be waterproof. Analogy: screen door in submarine.

The battery door would render waterproofness null and void. Iā€™m totally fine with that, too, cuz I learned my lesson with these Lumity Life NOT waterproof aids: with my squishy power domes, theyā€™d never be waterproof either.

If I could swap ONE pair of my rechargeable Lumity Life NOT-waterproof aids for a pair of 312-battery Lumity Life NEVER-GONNA-BE-waterproof aids ā€¦ Iā€™d DO IT! :smile:

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ActiveVent is for people who want open domes most of the time, but closed domes/molds for streaming (better audio quality) or in noisy situations. The receiver has a fully occluded tip, plus a vent with a little motor that automatically opens and closes it when certain programs are activated. So it will close for streaming music and open again when you stop, or you can set it up to close for speech in loud noise so that more of the noise is blocked out. Given your audiogram, I donā€™t think itā€™s something youā€™d want! :slight_smile:

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@1Bluejay

My audiologist said Activevent wouldnā€™t work for me. Itā€™s seems to be focused on the mild to medium loss group who wears an open fitting but could benefit occasionally from a closed fitting in a noisy environment.

I wear heavy double domes.

Jordan

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AH! That totally makes sense. Clever solution for those with better hearing than me, for sure! :slight_smile: Thanks for the info.

Now if you have any solution for my current BT streaming issue ā€¦ well, BRING IT! :smiley:

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Sad to hear you donā€™t feel the ā€œPerpetual Complainersā€ may have valid points as well as yours. For instance, the fact that those lesser voltages of rechargable batteries are next to usless for anyone with
extreme hearing loss

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I donā€™t think itā€™s simply a matter of not liking to carry spare batteries around. The reason I prefer rechargables has to do with predictability. When I had 312s, somehow the battery low message - the 15minute warning - would often come at a really inopportune time. Like playing in a band concert and being on stage just about to perform, or just after your doctor calls you to discuss your medical situation. With most rechargables, other than Lumity, as long as I charge them overnight, theyā€™re good for whatever the next day throws at me.

Iā€™ve trialed a few; right now Iā€™m wearing Resound Nexia. Iā€™m usually up at least 18 hours a day, stream 2-3 hours, and when I pop them in the charger they usually have about 60% battery left. On a very bad travel day, I wore them for 21 hours. By the way, I had also trialed the Resound Omnia, and their hours on an overnight charge was pretty bad. Resound has made a big improvement with the Nexia.

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