If have an app created programme, and if I adjust its parent programme in Target, the app programme disappears
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PCamp, I donât have the answer to that cuz Iâm not trialing or owning the Sphere (yet!).
myPhonak app allows me to tweak my basic program lineup (default, speech in loud places, music and acoustic phone) a bit, but I think what youâre talking about is can you manually adjust the Autosense setting on the Sphere so it doesnât transition so OBVIOUSLY when a person steps into a noisy place.
Maybe others here can chime in? Would be interesting to know how that works.
LOL! Youâre preachinâ to the Minstrel in the Gallery here! I was born & raised in Chi-town, and nearly went on a date to the '68 Dem Convention with my BF in the 6th grade. My first ever exposure to Jethro Tull was at age 14 - OW, Iâve never looked back. He is a true wandering minstrel from a different era.
With my current audiogram, concerts are a thing of the past. I simply have no margin left to lose if Iâm to stay in the hearing aid camp. Iâm intrigued by the Sphereâs ability to zero in on SPEECH in noisy places, but canât complain about my current 312-battery Phonak Lumity Life aids. Theyâre as small as a kidney bean behind my ear, screaminâ PINK in color (which counts!), and a noticeable improvement in clarity over the 2-yr-old rechargeable Lumity Life aids I also use - now ONLY as backups.
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I havenât posted an update in a while so thought I would catch up with everyoneâŠ
As I mentioned in my previous updates, I was having issues with speech clarity whenever the Infinio Sphere hearing were in the âCalmâ program. I also felt that music didnât sound as good as my Lumity L90 hearing aids. I took these issues back to my audiologist a few week ago and we determined that the performance of the new M receivers was different and he swapped out the M receivers for P receivers (both with double domes).
Iâm happy to report that after wearing the hearing aids with P receivers for a few weeks, all of my issues have disappeared. Voices are now nice and sharp whenever AutoSense is in the âCalmâ program and Music quality is now much richer. Iâve also noticed better speech comprehension in noisier environments and of course, speech in the Spheric AI program is still incredible.
I think a couple of things worked together to close the gap on my issues. I am convinced that there is something different about the M receivers and their performance compared to the M receivers I was wearing on my Lumity hearing aids. The amount of amplification I needed was butting up against the maximum capabilities of the M receivers and this was causing compression and distortion. Not sure why, but the P receivers completely fixed this issue. Iâm guessing the extra head room made all the difference. The other interesting observations I have made is that the larger P receivers are taking up more real estate in my ear canals and this, along with the double domes on these receivers has slightly increased the occlusion in both ears. The Sphere hearing aids are now operating in my ears with a more closed fitting and this has improved sound quality and with extra bass. The analogy would be the way music sounds better when you put your fingers in your ears with an open fitting and everything sounds a bit clearer.
Last night I attended an event which had about 150 people packed into a small 20 ft x 70 ft meeting room. It was absolutely packed in there with horrible noise everywhere, music blasting, people shoutingâŠa total hearing mess. Thing isâŠwith the Spheric AI noise program running the whole time, I could actually hear people and carry on decent conversations. This was a crazy first for me. It wasnât perfect and there were a few times it was so noisy that I had issues (mostly with people who had foreign accents), but I could still function. Huge relief for me as this was really and truly one of the worst places that I have tested the Sphereâs. An 80% success rate in this type of messy noise environment is a huge improvement.
This Sunday I fly down to the USA for a 3 day business trip. It should be interesting to test the Sphereâs at the airport, on the plane and in a variety of business meeting settings (including a few team dinners). I will report back late next week with another update.
Wishing everyone a good weekend!
Jordan
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One of these days, I may remove my open domes and try the power domes just to see how different it is
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@jeffpa, you can also get a feel for what will happen if you do that just by playing around in Target. For example, if you go to a more occlusive fit (power domes), Spheric noise reduction wonât have to work as hard (not sure why). But with an occlusive fit like power domes, slim tips or cShells (either with no vent), the âeffortâ put in by Spheric speech clarity for Spheric Speech in Loud Noise is only 5 (as shown below). Whereas for any open fit, Spheric Speech Clarity jumps up to the max rating of 7. Maybe with an open fit and some noise leaking directly to your eardrums, Spheric Speech tries to remove even more noise from the processed sound to compensate? Since I have decent low-frequency hearing, more noise would leak directly to my eardrums and be heard if I wear an open fit.
(above with my audiogram and an occlusive fit).
If you make the dome change, you should also run feedback testing again, as the results of the feedback testing are used to decide how open your fit really is and, IIRC, something about the acoustic parameters of your ear canal with your new receiver configuration. That could affect the intensity at which Target determines Spheric Speech Clarity should be applied by default.
You can also look at how the change in the openness of your fit will change your fitting curves, what happens if you turn on occlusion compensation, etc. Lots of ways to fritter away time testing! 
Footnote: The oddball thought occurred that Spheric Speech Clarity jumps up in the open fit situation as the receiver engages in active noise cancellation in the ear canal as well as digital signal processing. But if that were so, I think we would have heard about it from Target. So, itâs just an off-the-wall thought.
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So far, the only problem I want to solve is the hissing while streaming.
I did notice today, with tv about louder than the wife, I had difficulty understanding her. I threw spheric spheric speech on, but difficult to A/B test
If you are in a very noisy situation, some of the noise leaks by as you said. Occluded domes or molds reduces or eliminates the external noise. When my P-90s switch into speech in loud noise, my activevents close and I donât get much except what comes from the receiver. I have initial appt with sub audiologist on the 5th to discuss my next set of HAs. I intend to ask for infinio spheres with activevents , and new titanium slimtips. I have loved the activevents. Better speech in loud noise would be cherries on top.
WH
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Yes, that was mentioned in the post you quoted. The ânot sure whyâ was about why Spheric Speech Clarity working harder with an open fit is supposed to help. If Spheric Speech Clarity only works through DSP, Iâm not sure how it can help with noise leaking directly to oneâs eardrums. The horse would seem to be out of the barn door there.
A previous discussion about activents on the forum seemed to say that theyâre expensive and have to be replaced fairly frequently (IIRC, someone said every six months!). How has your replacement experience with activents been?
I found the following Phonak guide to its various earmolds on the web. Pretty complicated!
The guide says that cShells can provide the best sound experience because they provide a more assured positioning of the receiver speaker in the ear canal. Their disadvantage is that the receiver assembly with cShell must be returned to Phonak to replace the receiver. Slim tips do not provide the same assured placement of the receiver opening in the ear canal, but a HCP can replace the receiver without sending the whole shebang back to Phonak. (see PDF page 18 for comparison).
I plan to ask my audi about the pros and cons sheâs experienced with her patients on both before deciding on what to go for.
Too funny! 
Grammarly wants to replace âactiventsâ with âactivists!â
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What worked for me was to go into the myPhonak app while streaming, hit adjust program and throw the slider right over to the right.
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Hmm, wonder what the difference is between ambient and and noise block is?
I took your advice. Thank you so much. I have a âtune-upâ on Wed. I have android phone and apparently there is no way to turn sphere on or off. How do I know if itâs even working?
It is switched to by AutoSense.
You can ask your audiologist to make it a separate program
Doesnât matter what phone system you use. Read onâŠ
There are at least 3 ways to turn Spheric in loud noise on:
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Turn it on automatically:
Choose the automatic programm and go in a noisy environment. (Use your myPhonak app. Battery status will have changed % lifetime under 7 hours if fully loaded battery. Or look in âAdjust programâ, there status will be changed in Spheric with speech in loud noise).
Use your own made Spheric speech in loud noise program. (For that you first have to make this by going into âAutomatic programâ and enter/ or make a noisy area. Push âAdjust programâ, make a small change in there and save it as a new program by the name you give it).
Use the Spheric speech in noise program your HCP has to make for you as an additional program in his programming software.
-Youâll see that because your battery life time is dramatically reduced. -In my Phonak app you see the program changes. -Youâll hear it because you will be able to hear people talk you couldnât hear before. -Your battery is going to be drained in a couple of hours!
Leave the noisy room if it was automatically turned on.
Choose one of your not automatic or spheric programs f.i ârestaurantâ if you want to stay in the noisy environment so your batteries will last longer.
Hope this helps, good luck.
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Hi, thanks for the info. Iâm in the UK so just looked at the site you linked to. From what I can see, that price relies on everything being done remotely. You have a telephone chat to establish what sort of hearing aids you want, then you have to send the company your latest audio results you had tested elsewhere. They programme the new HA based on those results and send them to you. Any fine tuning is done remotely. It appears to be a very similar set up to buying HA from EBay - ok for some very knowledgeable and experienced HA users but not generally recommended for anyone without previous knowledge and expertise who is likely to benefit from the advice of a good audiologist in person.
Iâve got an appointment in person with an audiologist from Audiological Science. They are the cheapest provider of Infinio Sphere Iâve found who actually see clients in person. I will let you know how I get on.
Specsavers do them for ÂŁ250 less than Audiological Science
https://www.specsavers.co.uk/hearing/hearing-aids/hearing-aid-range
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Is it for 1 aid ÂŁ2995,â?
And then this text, what does that mean? You pay a 100% for loss? StrangeâŠ
âWhere youâve purchased a single non-NHS hearing aid and lost it, the replacement cost is 50% of the original price of a pair of hearing aids. You must register a loss within four years of the purchase dateâ.
Good post.
I spent a year and a half with a dispensing audi that didnât know how to set up my Paradise P90Rs. I had to go somewhere that knew how. I kept saying
How do we determine whatâs wrong?
How do we know how to fix these HAâs?
Person buying hearing aids should get hearing aids that work. I didnât.
Your answer is very interesting.
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@Emile030 , I am trialling the Infinio Sphere I90 with Specsavers and paid ÂŁ2995 in total for the pair.
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