Just make sure you download and save your current setup before playing around. That way if you make a mistake you can just upload the original settings to the HA’s and start again.
I’m only just getting started on DIY programming, but I’ve already learnt so much by lurking in these forums reading posts and asking questions. Lots of experience on this forum.
Hi, aussie
I am educating myself at the moment in preparation of accompanying my wife to an audiologist, once we get Covid under control here.
I would like to be in a position where any audiologist or fitter would find it difficult to convince me that my choice is wrong.
I would not mind looking at Target, and I have put a request on DIY for link. Hope somebody will respond.
If you are in Melbourne, where do I find the most skilled Phonak Marvel fitter?
Forums are great.
It is just a pity that not many people come back to say how they managed to solve their problem.
There are a few of us Aussies on here, not many though I don’t think.
You never stop learning, I’ve only been on this forum for a couple of months, but have been wearing HA’s for about 7 years now. I learn something new almost every day, and a lot of the time from just reading other posts on this forum.
Definitely go and see an Audi when you can, not making assumptions but you mentioned in another thread that you were retired? You might qualify for Hearing Services Program which will supply a fully subsidised set of HA’s for you. If you want a higher level then you pay the difference. I recently got a pair of Audeo Marvel M30’s the out of pocket for me was about $1100. I was going to go top of the range, but I don’t think I would have seen the value.
You should be able to trial any pair of HA’s from your Audi, I’ve heard stories about some pushing “top of the range” HA’s or a particular brand, but remember its up to you. If you are not comfortable, walk away and go somewhere else.
@Blacky mentioned the Roger Select iN being refundable as mentioned by someone in Australia. That was me, I qualify for a program called Job Access, this is due to the select iN being of benefit to my work, by letting me hear better in meetings etc. So if I buy it, then the Govt. will reimburse me.
Looks like Dan has eased the restrictions a bit for you in Victoria, however I think medical and hearing appointments are classified as essential anyway therefore should be able to go whenever you need to.
I’d certainly get an audiogram and speech recognition test done, if you are eligible for the Hearing Services Program, these and all follow ups will be free under the program.
I think I sent you a PM earlier with a link to the latest version of Target. If not, let me know and I’ll send you a link for the download.
I self program and also pay attention to the pros on this forum.
In fine tuning find program manager. There you can turn AutoSense on and off if you want.
You can select AutoSense to program ‘-‘ instead of ‘A’ (Automatic) so it’s sort of turned off. You can’t physically turn it off tho.
When you do turn it off (disable) go take a look at devices. You will see that it is not there.
Then go and turn the AutoSense back on (enable) and check in devices. AutoSense will be there again in your devices button controls. Call it it what you think best but you can disable or turn off AutoSense if desired.
I went through a phase where I didn’t want to use Autosense at all. Phonak has it where Autosense is what the aids power up in. But, you can change that, and I made it program number 4. I have since changed it back to 1. When I stream with the TV Connector, I turn Autosense off as well as the HA microphones. Helps me concentrate.
Um, I was referring to the part of your post I’ve quoted, this
So how do you adjust autosense’s sensitivity?
I found that only for loud program but no others.
Thank you Shelldrake.
We are not in a hurry. Not catching Covid is more important. And I still want to learn more before we go.
We are age pensioners so we will be eligible. I think the subsidy is $1,600 per person.
I am not sure what would happen if we go and try something, and then say no, thanks, and walk away, whether the time spent with that audiologist will be subtracted from the subsidy, and at the following audiologist we will have less. I will have to find out somehow.
Thanks for the PM. I haven’t downloaded the sw yet.
The forum is very good. I got several PM’s with links.
It shouldn’t be subtracted from anything. My understanding of the Hearing Services Program is that all audiologist visits, audiograms etc., are covered by the voucher. I was a private patient before I qualified for the program and I had to pay for these. After I got my voucher and gave it to my Audiologist, I haven’t paid a cent. You can “transfer” your voucher to another Audiologist by visiting them and asking them to transfer it over, you sign a form to do this.
You are correct, my subsidy was just over $1500, and I paid about $1100 out of pocket for my pair. I’m happy with them for now, and as I have the equipment to self program and learn, that will keep me happy as well.
If your Audi doesn’t like giving you a trial, then walk away and find someone new. Its your money and your hearing, you need to find what works for you, not what device is the easiest to sell you.
Thank you for explaining the subsidy scheme.
We will start doing something when the Covid situation settles down a bit in Victoria.
Looking for “good” audiologist will be difficult. You only find out when you start dealing with them. Asking for references is problematic.
I wonder how many clinics or individual audiologists have the RealEar measument set up, whether it is common or rare.
I contacted Phonak more than 6 months ago about an Autosense problem. On my android phone any activity causes my Marvels to revert to Autosense. Send/receive a msg or phone call, use a tracking program like G Maps or Mapmy Walk, and your custom programs go away; back to Autosense.
Phonak replied that they were working on the problem.
I have had Phonak Virto M90-312 hearing aids in both ears for about 5 months. At first, Autosense 3.0 was the only program they had. The Autosense was driving me crazy.
I went back to my provider and complained about constant feedback. The worst of the feedback came when I was anywhere near water running. Every day this occurred in the kitchen, the bathroom, and outdoors near a fountain or a stream. My provider assured me that there was NO feedback because these Phonak hearing aids were the latest and the greatest. She also said there were no other programs and that I should be happy I have Autosense which does everything for me.
I realized that she really didn’t know much about the hearing aids she had sold me and that I needed to do my own research in order to be my best advocate. Of course, I learned that there are additional programs that could be added and I decided that Music would probably be best for me.
I went back to her and explained what I needed her to do. She didn’t know how to do it and contacted Phonak for help. Once the Music program was added to my hearing aids, everything was better.
Now I can be in the kitchen, the bathroom and near water without any feedback problem at all. My problem was the Autosense 3.0. The hearing aids still turn on to Autosense but a quick switch to Music makes everything wonderful. I would go back to the provider to ask her to make Music the first program but I fear that she would have no idea how to do that.
Is there a way that I, as a consumer, could download and use Target software? That would help me with the order of programs on my hearing aids.
You would need a Noahlink Wireless as well as the Target software.
Check diy section of the forum here, that’ll help a lot.
And yes, it’s possible to put any program as first one.
Unfortunately yes, she has no clue nor desire to help you, she was only interested in selling 
Thanks for the reply. I knew it was too good to be true.
You can get a Noahlink for about $175 on ebay so it is by no means out of the question to DIY.
J
It does take a certain attitude and level of confidence though. It’s more for somebody who enjoys figuring things out rather than being told what to do.