Are the differences between the audiograms and your Audiogram Direct systematic ones? In my case, the in situ is generally above the audiogram. The audiogram I’m using is a weighted average of the last three that were done. In this pic, the light gray lines are the in situ:
My in situ audiogram is also different in the same way. It indicates less loss than a traditional in booth one. I attribute this to the fact that I get to take time to know if I am really hearing the sound before hitting the key for that frequency. The in booth audiogram should be more accurate because the background noise has been blocked out, and the instrumentation is far more accurate. However, I trust the in situ results above those of the in booth, professionally done one.
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Yes there are admitted problems with bluetooth and M90s. I have M90 with telecoil. I am reporting to head office, as they are kindly supporting me as a retired ear specialist and ear surgeon. The problem is at least in part with the app we are using, which they are working on, and partly the whole difficulty of using bluetooth at 2 levels, controlling via the R aid and a lower level signal to send quality bluetooth sound in stereo. I have found, never have 2 devices on bluetooth active at once. Always turn them all off and just activate the one you want to use. Turn BT off after use. Always use the app to turn on BT rather than your phone or tablet. I am IT literate and have spent hours in trial and error!
I’m very curious as to why you recommend using the app to turn on Bluetooth rather than directly from your phone or tablet?
No, that’s nonsense. Multiple Bluetooth devices can be kept active and connected on different instruments without a problem. Sure, there are specific devices, like the Marvel HAs that must be disconnected from streaming on one device if you want to stream to them from a different device, an operation that takes a few seconds. But no need to turn off Bluetooth or disconnect any other devices you may be using.
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brec asked:
Are the differences between the audiograms and your Audiogram Direct systematic ones?
Here’s mine. The left side is pretty different, with what I assume are weird canal resonances. There is less difference when I use custom moulds with my previous aids, but Phonak has cunningly changed the connection method for receivers, so I can’t use the old receivers.
I have the M-70s on a trial run. If I have the aids connected to my iPhone the default app seems to be Bluetooth + mic. I have to manually select AutoSense and the aids revert to Bluetooth + mic unless I disconnect the aid in the iPhone Bluetooth. Is that normal?
Also if I must the aids in the My Phonak app when the iPhone screen locks the aids unmute. Is there a way to force a mute until I unmute?
Well reading this post is very disappointing. I have never worn HA before and just ordered the M90’s this week and getting my fitting January 27th. I thought if I got the “very best” HAs out there it would help me to adjust to wearing them and make life easier. Now I’m very discouraged 
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I have been wearing hearing aids for 15 years, I will tell you this keep notes on your likes and dislikes with the aids and stay on top of the issues with your Audi. If the Audi is worth their money they will get the aids adjusted for you, but it is going to take you time to adjust to hearing aids, and it is also going to take time to get the aids tuned to your needs.
Be patient an keep after that Audi to get them right. The largest part of hearing aid failures is not the aids but the Audi.
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I thought I had done my research and I had not read anything bad about the Marvel before I ordered them but now I’m thinking I should have gone with the Resound or Widex which were the other ones that I was considering.
Remember what I said above the Marvels are a great hearing aid, more than likely the issues is with the fitting and fine tuning of the hearing aids. Be patient, keep notes of what is good and what isn’t that good and make that Audi of yours do his/her job. I have 15 years experence with hearing aids and the first fitting is never the right fitting, my last aids took 9 adjustments to get them right. The more advanced the tech the more it can take to get them right. You can take that from a retired IT professional.
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You bought some good hearing aids. They just need to fit properly.
That left ear could be challenging. Phonaks Sound Recover might help that ear.
Hang in there cvkemp has given you some great advice.
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Thanks for the info. I’ve known for several years I had hearing issues and it has gradually gotten worse and to the point it is starting to interfere with my job so it was definitely time. I will definitely follow the advice that you guys have given. I’m hopeful that they will help enough that I can have conversations again without asking for them to repeat everything and be able to watch movies and understand what’s being said without turning on CC.
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I for one will not use CC I would prefer to read a book than try to watch a movie at the same time as reading CC.
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FYI, If your audi replicates your custom program you’ve made in your app into an actual program in Target (into the one of three available to you), you won’t have this problem. It’ll stay put until you switch it or restart your aids.
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That is good to know, seeing I am thinking about getting Marvels myself soon
Don’t kick yourself about selecting the Marvels. They are good hearing aids. I bought my first HAs about a year and a half ago: ReSound Quattros with the highest level of tech. It took about 6 fittings, 4 different ear molds, a new pair of eyeglasses, and 2 audiologists before I got a good fit. With me it was more comfort issues than hearing issues…though there were hearing issues too. I hope there will be some things about hearing aids that you’ll absolutely love, and quickly. With me it was streaming phone calls to my hearing aids and streaming audiobooks. Plus I had better word recognition in quiet settings from the start. Those were all good things that happened quickly. But there was a lot of unpleasant stuff–it took about six months before I felt I’d made the best decision for me. Try not to give up!
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Ksnorrod,
I never meant to imply that Marvels aren’t good aids. They just haven’t worked out for me, so far. Most of the folks here already know that my situation makes me a difficult fit for aids. I have a combination of severe to profound high frequency loss and a sensitivity to loud sounds as well. I don’t think Phonak is lying when they talk about their high acceptance rates with Marvel. You have been given some really good advice. You paid good money for them, so insist that you get your money’s worth. And don’t give up. I have been right on the edge of just forgetting about aids entirely for some time. But, I also know that as bad as my hearing already is, it is going to get worse. I am fortunate that I got my Marvels through the VA and didn’t have to pay retail prices for them. I am still trying to find a programming solution that I can stand to wear and that also helps my hearing. Modern hearing aids are technically complicated, so it takes some complicated adjustments to get the most out of them. And, it takes time.
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I’m trialing the M-70s now then the Widex Evokes and then the Quattros.
If you don’t mind me asking why did you move to the Marvels, or give up on the Quattros, so quickly?
I still wear the Quatros. I’m just expressing the view that the Marvels are also good aids. I follow the Marvels threads because my current audiologist is more familiar with Phonak than ReSound and says he’d have put me in Marvels and prefers Phonak over ReSound.
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