Widex introduces WIDEX MOMENT, the world’s first hearing aid to deliver a truly natural sound experience

My audi checked and was told they’ve pushed it to fall now :pensive:

where is your YouTube channels I’ll watch. :slight_smile: I’m not a musician but try to enjoy music so I’m always curious which HAs sound better for live music and streaming. I’ll be interested to see if you the Widex Moments and if the “Puresound” makes a difference. I am not looking at Widex Moments or Phonak Paradise models. I’m in the Apple world so I’m OK with iphone only and I doubt I would stream from my TV. The appeal of the Phonaks to me right now is water resistance and speech enhancement but I wonder if a well fitted HA would be good for quiet times with soft spoken people which I can’t hear with my current HAs.

I work in NYC so taking the subway requires noise canceling or isolating headphones because even turning the mikes off the trains are to loud to hear streaming well.

Will Widex Moment get the BTE version?

I have severe hearing loss and audiologists recommend BTE to me. i now have a Phonak Naida q50 and my plan is to switch to Widex Moment, of course after I try out the hearing aids.

At widex Moment, I liked the “sound sense learn” option the most.
At first I will adjust the programs, the conditions I am in, etc. in the application on the smartphone, and later HA will be able to recognize the conditions I am in and even determine where I am via a GPS location to turn on a certain program. As far as I can see, no device in the competition offers that yet.
Another thing I like is the more advanced app, which gives me more options around adjusting the sound. I’ve always been looking for that, I’ve often been in conditions where it’s hard to understand speech and where I’d like to adjust the HA to suit me.

By the way, I’ll ask, does Widex still use hearing aids with a 675 battery? I didn’t notice Evoke using it.

Thanks in advance.

Hi, I am interested if any sound engineer, audiophile or musician has experience with the Widex Moment, particularly in PureSound mode. Is it marketing hype or does the latency / delay reduction sound appreciably better with music for those of us with mild hearing loss using open domes?

I currently use Phonak Marvel (which is just passable but not great with music - which I think is partially due to the smearing of the transients due to the processing delay) and am considering if it is worth a trial of the Widex Moments.

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I think I saw something like that mentioned somewhere else also. Resound or starkey. :thinking:

But not whole teaching experience, that’s still widex-only afaik.

If what you tried so far is just passable, trying completely different approach definitely seems worth testing.

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Pro pianist here. I’m using the Moment 440 rechargeable RICs. I can’t hear any latency whatsoever. Not in any of the modes. “Pure”, from what I can tell, uses just one set of the microphones. So music is theoretically less directional but it sounds great to me. The only other HAs I’ve used to compare them with were from 10 years ago when latency was extremely bad and noticeable. I’m also very sensitive to latency especially when playing really fast music on the piano. I can hear when latency makes a note sound like it’s being played behind. (Not to toot my own horn but I’m talking about really fast piano playing :))

If you notice strangeness with the Phonak I’d recommend the Widex because I haven’t heard anything weird wearing them while playing or listening to music aside from when I was still dialing in my fitting and frequency adjustments. It’s been fun experimenting with different uses for the different microphones and the vast features. I’ve got 5 regular programs set up for normal use, quiet speech, natural sounding nature and urban conditions (Pure), music (piano) playing, and concert settings (with wind noise reduction, speech enhancements). And all 5 programs sound great when playing or listening to music

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In 2019, Widex and Sivantos merged as one company under the new name “WS AUDIOLOGY”. Of course the brands widex, signia etc will still exist separately. But it’s interesting for the reason that it will share technology. The development of new technologies costs money, and even with that, the price of hearing aids rises. Due to this merger, prices will certainly be lower and it is possible that the new Widex and of course Signia, etc. will bring progress. So I’m looking forward to it. What bothers me the most as a customer when they raise the price is that it’s hard for me to afford some better options.
A friend of mine recently inquired about Bernafon Appliances, and their best model costs twice as much as the Widex moment. And it brings nothing better than Widex Moment.

I think “in general,” the prices of all major hearing aid manufacturers are very similar. I get this impression from looking at online prices. However, an individual practice may get very different prices from different manufacturers. I’m guessing the variation would depend largely on number of instruments sold, but could imagine a variety of reasons. I too would assume that Widex and Sivantos will be sharing technology, but so far haven’t seen any evidence of that. I am not optimistic about them dropping prices.

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I asked my audioligits if I can play piano with my new hearing aids? she said could you play before. :slight_smile: just kidding. Hmm can you toot your own horn or you only play piano. :slight_smile:

Interesting, I’m going to ask for natural sounding nature. In my quiet home I use music program a lot even though I can hear my noisy NVR and the heat when winter comes along. I only play the stereo but it definitely sounds better then my 6 year old Widex did. I’ve tried experimenting with the volume of the mics to volume of stereo ratio and can get a fuller sound when lowering the mics. I can’t sure pure since my hearing loss is across all frequencies not just the highs.

This is some great information as I’m currently looking at the Moment product, specifically the 330. Did you try the 330 or did you go right to the 440? I ask as I’m wondering if the cost difference is really worth the difference in performance. It seems they highlight the wind noise reduction on the 440 and I’m not sure it’s something I really need given the cost difference.

Thanks!

If it is the same as the Evokes, with the 330 as you walk along you will get more wind noise, and with the 440 I don’t register it. It depends on what you are used to as to how much you would notice. When I temporarily dropped to 330 I really noticed the wind noise where I was used to not having it but they are still very high performing aids.

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You can reduce wind by covering them, either with ear gear, or just some hat/headband.
Unless you have insane feedback in the first place. But cloth works fine :slight_smile:

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If you are interested in advanced use of the Widex Moment app or interested in music / sound quality, a two-part article. Part 2 is quite technical, and I had my husband read it!

From Analogplanet.com Review of Widex Moment, part 1

From Analogplanet on Widex Moment part 2

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Thanks for the links, good review!

@dennish thanks for your reply and your first hand experience which is very useful.
@francestoronto thanks for the links to the Michael Fremer articles.
It sounds like it is definitely worth giving the Widex Moment a trial run to see if they give a better outcome for me for music.

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I’ve made the decision to get the Widex product but I’m in the process of convincing the “need” part of my brain with the “want” part of my brain that the additional cost is worth it!:slight_smile:

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Try HearSource.com for a HUGE discount (I got mine for 50%!) and amazing in-home remote fitting with a great knowledgeable and gracious audiologist

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I just demoed resounds, phonaks and widex moments. I found quality high to low to be the same order. I couldn’t think of anything about the widex’s that were any better than the resounds or phonaks, and my tipping point was being able to play my solo acoustic performances with them.

The resounds were the highest model, I’m sorry I can’t remember which. But they were life-changing. For the first time ever, I was in a noisy bar and I could hear what my friends were talking about across the l of the bar . They were just amazing. I did have them adjusted during the demo and he brought them up too high so the rest of my demo period wasn’t as positive because I had to turn them down every time I put them on but honestly they were the most powerful life-changing hearing aids I’ve ever tried and I MAY end up purchasing a pair. What I did not like about them is that I did not like how I sounded playing and singing with them on period like a tolerated but it wasn’t great, very lifeless and tinny. so I would actually keep my current five-year-old white exes just for playing and I don’t like that idea of having to have two sets simply because my expensive set doesn’t allow me to do one thing.

THE PHONAKS WERE DECENT PERIOD THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE MORE NATURAL SOUNDING AND I THINK THEY WERE. Sorry for the all caps, button got stuck and I don’t have time to edit… But the phone acts weren’t as life-changing. the app was nearly useless. It crashed constantly and there was no way for me to use it in hurried situations while we were out period for example having it open ready for a waitress to come over to our table so that I could adjust it as she’s talking or other such things. It took a huge level of concentration and fudging while out in public which diminish my experience greatly. Other than that the phone acts were decent. Not remarkable, not life-changing, but they had a great little nicely uncompressed setting that I found fantastic for performing music.

i actually did find the widex’s just fine for music, but not as good as my old white exes. It’s probably just what I’m used to for one thing. My old widex’s just had this one completely uncompressed setting that sounds pretty natural but it’s very crisp and has a lot of trouble so I can really hear the crispness of my steel guitar strings. But my existing widex are absolutely miserable for hearing a conversation. I still have to use captions for any TV show in any room despite having my hearing aids turned all the way up. I can only have a conversation one on one and quiet rooms, and I’ve always been that way as long as I can remember. The resounds were the only product that allowed me to step away from that limitation for a short time.

Widex hearing aids are a favorite for many musicians. Best sound for me in 30 years of hearing aid use.

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