Huh? The word “bonuses” was a direct quote from Prodigy Place. I included the quote in my post. I didn’t put words in anyone’s mouth - not in that post or repeatedly. What gives with the personal attack?
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I’m not attacking you, Bill. Why would I do that? Maybe if you reread some of our recent exchanges, you might appreciate where I’m getting that notion.
Anyway, I sure as hell don’t want to pursue this, Bill.
Yes, that was a typo. Thanks for highlighting it.
Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it. What you are describing may lead to what is called the Osborne effect.
Osborne Computers announced an upcoming new model more than a year before it was available. Dealers canceled orders of the existing model, anticipating the new one. Many people believe that led to the company’s demise.
I know this added to my hesitation to try the product I also have concerns about the longevity of the company.
Whisper was launched in October, 2020. Over the next 12 months, through September, 2021, they provided 2 upgrades. On their anniversary, in October, 2021, they provided a third upgrade and over the next 12 months, through September, 2022, they provided 2 more upgrades. That was 5 upgrades in their first 2 years. They are now 3 months into their third year with no upgrades so far. But there are 9 more months to go in that 3rd year. Let’s wait to see what happens in next 9 months before we declare year 3 the year of broken promises.
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I was assuming calendar year.
I understand, but I don’t see why.
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Boy, forever vengeful over past conflicts, huh? What you vengefully call FUD and conjecture and gratuitous musings, I call having a personal opinion and being able to express it freely. I wonder why I can’t express my own personal opinion in a free forum like this and be attacked for doing so?
In my post #551 did I specifically attack you or anybody else in this forum personally to deserve being called out by name and personally attacked by you? Of course you’re free to not like what I said and voice your own opinion to contradict mine if you want. I wouldn’t have any problem with that if it’s done in a civil way. But to call me out by name and vengefully use vile words to attack me personally is pretty classless.
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@Volusiano: My sentiments Exactly, MrV …Exactly!
That’s a valid point, I guess. But it’s a double edge sword in a way, because unless they make it know to people that they’re coming out with v2 hardwares that will cost more than v1 hardwares, people may not know better and assume that pricing will be the same. But if they make it know that v2 will be more expensive, it can become a marketing turn-off as well.
The other point is that for the demographic for potential Whisper users usually have had other pretty well known and are still not happy with those offering, so they’re looking for something else that works better for them, and those folks usually are probably not on a budget, they can afford to go with a superior solution. So if I were one of those folks, I’d rather wait for the v2 hardware which is only 6 months away supposedly.
@Volusiano: All this crass behaviour accomplishes is to “poison the well” with venom, so that other members with intelligent views to share are discouraged from doing so, lest they be attacked for having a divergent opinion, also.
I was just assuming that the big 6 are probably big enough to own their own mfg facilities and not have to source out the mfg stuff, but I can be wrong as well because I’m just a customer, so I don’t know better. I assume that maybe William Demant has the same HA mfg facilities to make all of the brands under them, like Oticon, Sonic, Bernafon, and probably even Philips although Philips is a licensing deal and not a subsidiary of William Demant. Probably similarly for other HA mfgs who own multiple brands under the same roof as well.
Anybody with some insight into HA mfg who can share what they know about this in here? I admit that I don’t really know and only assume here. If somebody knows better, I’ll defer to their comments. Thanks.
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Yeah, it IS pretty interesting that Whisper has the funding as a startup to go into a second round of hardware development and manufacturing, all the while, its business growth doesn’t seem to have kept up with its rapid R&D growth. Well, I can only judge its business growth based on the Whisper activities on this forum only and that may not be a valid indicator, but then what else is there to judge on? Even the Whisper marketing and their website seem to be stagnant based on what @prodigyplace has shared from his recent exploration.
I wonder if Whisper has a deep but very secret pocket behind it, maybe William Demant? Maybe WD wants to explore a new subscription based business model of leasing HAs but doesn’t want to launch it under their own umbrella in case it bombs big time and they don’t want eggs on their face. So they can start funding a small startup like Whisper and if Whisper is successful, they’ll fold Whisper into their umbrella as a subsidiary. But if Whisper fails, WD doesn’t get eggs on their face.
Now if Happy calls out what I said above as gratuitous conjecture, I agree with that (but only regarding what I said above and nothing else) because it really is a wild conjecture on my part → just musing for fun here.
I specifically asked whether the payment for the trial required me to sign a loan or financial agreement. I was told that the payment was to Whisper directly.
You’re referring to the $69 payment to start a trial? Yeah, I guess that’s just earnest money to make sure you’re interested for real and not just trolling them or something. I’m pretty sure that if the trial is successful and you want to sign on, that’s when they would set things up through a bank like they did with other users.
It’s just that you basically say the same thing over and over again, ad nauseam. And it is basically FUD and unfounded assumptions.
No one really cares what you think about the Whisper hearing aids, except the sycophant @SpudGunner.
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I posit nobody’s cares about your non-content contributions to this thread.
@Volusiano voiced many of my thoughts based on my years of experience.
At the risk of more attacks I will add another thought. I notice that Whisper has a few patents. It could be they are either trying to prove their worth with the goal of being purchased by one of the major companies or, adding some of @Volusiano ’s ideas, perhaps one of the major companies is using thus as a low risk way of testing the patents. Either way, the product could be a temporary, short-lived product. I guess I may be a little sensitive to that since I had a Pebble watch that failed totally after a few months but with no support after the company, but not a existing product, gad been purchased. The watch was bought before the company was purchased.
@happymach you are free to leave this thread. Do not let the door hit you on the way out.
That’s actually hilarious. You might want to review the title of the topic that you’re “contributing” to. happymach is a real user of whisper hearing aids and one of the earliest posters in the topic. Therefore, happymach is one of the few people here who is essential to keeping things relevant in this thread.
The only reason you’re posting in this topic is that it’s the most active one on Whisper AI, therefore giving you the largest audience for your pontifications. If you want to talk about Whisper AI but what you want to talk about is not based on personal experience of the product or a user’s reported personal experience of the product, please consider starting your own topic. Call it “my thoughts on Whisper AI based on 20 years of experience in …” and go for your life.
Thankyou for your consideration.
I was actually considering trying it but have decided otherwise. I posted because we had not seen any experience updates in months and the company seems to have gone silent too.
I am perplexed. You believe that Whisper has taken valuable personnel from Oticon, and you seem to be grieved by this. But you don’t believe that these people can help Whisper produce a successful product. These are the people who write the white papers you quote from.
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