@danhuddleston: You’re exactly correct: I backed down even further from my normal “pushover” self, and look where it got me!
Seriously, my audi was so much more competent than my previous hack that I just demurred … I shouldn’t have. I’m usually not known for having a compliant nature, but you probably wouldn’t have picked up on that.
Well my audiologist saw a different side of me at this last appointment. I was frustrated with feeling I couldn’t stream the TV as much as I needed too. I even explained that I had in the past said I didn’t need the Adapter just not to complain. I was also upset with Oticon screwing up firmware 1.4.0 and caused issues with IOS16 after Apple fixing issues that was an issue in IOS15 with firmware 1.3.0.
I also said that while I feel as of now that More1 aids are as good as it gets for me that I really prefer ITE aids and if Oticon truly has take the More technology to the OWN1 aids I wanted to try them.
I believe I will get them but it isn’t a given.
I was asked to research the other brands for possible alternatives and email him my thoughts. This morning I did my feeling is that there isn’t anything out there ITE that would even interest me.
@cvkemp: I really like my Mores, as you know. I’d be happy to have More2s with the disposable battries, but Oticon was too interested in forcing me into rechargeable. If they knew that disposable batteries would be available in just a few months while they were busy hard selling me on rechargeables, I think they should have advised me or allowed me to exchange my rechargeable ones for what I asked for in the first place.
My issue is that I normally don’t want to stream the TV until after 6:30 pm by then I have already logged 10 to13 hours of wearing my aids. The More1 aids are already to the point that when streaming the TV they will not stay connected to the iPhone. At least my OPNS1 aids aren’t suffering that issue.
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Utter nonsense. You are obviously an intelligent person, so I’m puzzled why this nonsense gets by your defenses.
Production of any sort of durable good involves mining of raw materials. Lithium is no worse than any other element. There is no net detriment here. And think of all the environmental degradation that doesn’t happen from all the fossil fuels being burned throughout the life of the vehicle. There are countless studies that confirm that EVs have a smaller lifetime carbon footprint than ICEVs. It’s settled, except in the minds of those who flatly refuse to recognize reality.
If there is a graveyard of dead EVs somewhere in Paris, it is because no one has gotten around to recycling them. ALL of those batteries (and the rest of the cars too) have value, and they can all be recycled. There are plenty of recycling plants all over the globe waiting for those metals and batteries and other electronics for recycling, because there is a demand for the elements. What is definitely NOT happening is EVs rotting in Paris because they’re too toxic to deal with. Holy Shamoley - where does this stuff come from?
There is a carbon footprint from producing bags of disposable HA batteries too. There is a carbon footprint for just about everything humans do. We need to choose wisely. If rechargeables don’t fit your needs, then it makes perfect sense to use disposables. No one is trying to guilt anyone into doing anything that’s not right for them. Do what works for you. If you can help out the environment too, then double win.
The sense I get from these discussions is that rechargeables are gaining, but not quite capable of handling the needs for all users. Yet the HA companies are leaning in the direction of rechargeables that are not quite ready for prime time, and choices are narrowing.
Seems to me that’s a good reason to have a frank discussion with your audi and let them know when your needs aren’t being met. As I understand it, the audis are the real customers of the HA companies. We need to get them to squawk at the manufacturers.
I have to say this are you even looking at the big picture or are you seeing your little bit of the pie. For thing we do on this earth the earth is countering it. We are destroying the rain forest, we are paving everything over so use the earth is heating up. We are mining and using toxic chemicals to get what we want from the mining that toxic waste ends up in sour water systems. We have created the wind generators and when they no long work they are buried in the ground and will not degree hundreds of years. The government, companies and all of this green BS are so damn blind to the big picture that it is sickening.
Nothing is being buried in the ground that is recycleable. At least not while anyone is watching.
And throughout all of this I’ve noticed one thing you haven’t mentioned at all. I suspect (don’t know) that you refuse to believe in the effects of burning fossil fuels on the climate crisis.
For those who don’t pay attention to this stuff, there is a carbon cycle on the Earth’s surface. Living stuff grows, matures, dies, decomposes, which releases CO2, which feeds all the living plants, that ‘exhale’ oxygen to keep all the animals alive, until they die and release that carbon again. It all goes 'round and 'round. Everything is in balance. Even early humankind, cutting down trees for fuel, didn’t really disturb that cycle much, just sped it up in places.
Then the Industrial Revolution happened, which led to digging up eons-old carbon to be burned in today’s atmosphere. Relentlessly. Ever-increasingly. For centuries. And suddenly (in relative terms) we had a whole lot more CO2 in the atmosphere than ever before, and it absorbs more heat than the other atmospheric gases. So the weather heats up on average and becomes more volatile. And the oceans heat up and become more acidic. (Which is why half the Great Barrier Reef is dead.)
WE did this. Even the oil companies have stopped lying about it. (In part because some internal documents have shown up that prove they’ve known it’s been us using their products that have been the issue all along.)
So WE need to stop it. It won’t happen on its own.
Is that “big picture” enough for you?
And why the [bleep] do I find myself battling climate disinformation on a hearing aid forum?
On recycling, one can have a very good recycling program but it’s the non-compliant humans that screw things up. I heard on a recent Science Friday podcast that 99% of the lead in lead acid batteries is recycled but it’s the 1% in each go-round that’s not that’s the problem.
As a little perspective on where the planet is going, there were ~2.6 billion folks on the planet in 1950. Current estimate as of 9/22 is 7.98 billion. There is a limit to the arable land that can feed an ever-increasing population and the planetary resources that can otherwise support a humongous population.
I have seen those big wind generators being buried. I have seen the oil leaks from those generators. I bet you haven’t been out to see what really happens in the real world.
I have seen the birds killed by those giant blades. It happens all the time and the government, media and companies cover it up.
We are fully capable of supporting every living person on the planet in comfort, safety and security, with each having the freedom to be themselves and fulfill their potential. No socialism need be involved. (Though having some individuals wealthier than nations is a pretty clear indication of where we’ve gone wrong.)
Not realizing that possibility is a choice. Choices matter.
If population is your major concern, there is no better, more repeatedly proven method to control it than education and allowing people the freedom to improve their lot. Not pursuing that approach is a choice too.
How many people have given any thought to the staggering amount of human intellectual capital - our species’ most valuable resource - that is locked up in poverty, where people struggle just to get through another day? Where would we be if just a small fraction of that resource was utilized?
Choices matter.
The big picture that you are not seeing is that nothing is learned from single, cherry-picked examples. In all things, you need to not only look at what’s happening, but at what magnitude.
The oil leaks from wind turbines are an infinitesimal drop in the bucket compared to the oil drippings that wash off the nation’s roads every time it rains.
Yes, birds are killed by wind turbines. Bats too. But in microscopic numbers compared to what cats and other predators take. And BTW, work is underway to reduce those deaths. And to produce recyclable blades. No one is ignoring the problems. And while that work continues, no fossil fuels are being burned to produce that power.
If you want to look at the big picture, especially if you want to accuse others of ignoring it, look at the WHOLE picture. Proportionally. Not just at what you want to see.
I’m done hijacking this thread for now. You seem like someone who wants the last word, so have at it.
i’m really confused why this topic is so off topic…
Some of this stuff is a little bit like “the coronavirus is a Democratic hoax.” There are “facts” and then the real facts. You can inoculate bacteria into a few milliliters of liquid broth and grow them. They grow exponentially in the broth until their own waste products inhibit their growth and eventually kill them off. The human population is no different except the size of the test tube is a lot bigger.
Current world-wide agricultural practices in producing staple crops like wheat, corn, and rice actually degrade the soil. So, the ever-increasing human population is actually reducing the ability to feed itself. There is a movement to switch to more sustainable agriculture, such as using cover crops more and not plowing furrows that break down soil into dirt granules that are easy to wash or blow away, etc.
To get back to HA’s, if only a few tens of millions of people are using HA’s, the amount of waste those folks generate is perhaps a relatively small item in the overall picture. But if a billion people were using hearing aids, the amount of waste that needs to be responsibly dealt with has increased accordingly.
Have you ever lived in the country, on a farm and tried to make a living doing so. I grew up on a sharecroppers farm my parents, grandparents, great grandparents, aunts and uncles cousins all working to make a living you come to love the land, the animals even the wild animals. You come to respect Mother Nature. You know what makes the the maddest? Having some stupid salesman sent out by the county owned electric company telling me to install solar panels and oh by the way you have to cut all the trees down around you home. That idiot is lucky he didn’t have to be cared off. It is that kind of stupidity that is killing this earth we can’t keep cutting the forest and trees down. We can go out and start dreaming up crazy things without thinking about the opposite reaction. And your comments on the bird kills isn’t something else that pisses me off.
Do a search on “agrivoltaic farming”. Sometimes you can have your cake and eat it too.
You have all the answers don’t you and I bet you have never been out of the city. I am through with you we are on the opposite side of things I want my nature back and your are find with destroying it as long as you can sale your ideas.
It’s not just the waste, it’s the carbon released to produce them too.
But as I’ve said before, this is really about quality of life. Or actually, getting back up to the quality of life that hearing people have. No one is suggesting that we have to live like animals to be green. We need to do what we need to do.
I’m concerned if the HA industry is pushing too hard on rechargeables if that keeps people with more severe loss from getting what they need. Is that, in fact what’s happening in the industry?
Rechargeables will likely work fine for me now, but now generally turns into later…
Sorry to interject on an off topic, but here is something that attracted my attention this week, while searching for wall/roof insulation, trying to reduce heating/cooling bill:
- CO2 emissions savings of 0.18 vs 0.15
Depends on several other factors (HDD for your location, type of heating system, its efficiency, it’s carbon intensity).
That difference in u-value will mean about 50kWh of extra heat would leak out for 2000 HDDs. For a 90% efficient gas boiler you’d be looking at about 10kg CO2e per year difference.
So probably about what a hedgehog would fart in that same year.
https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=10318
Basically, we all worry about CO2 emissions when at the end of the day, it all boils down to few hedgehog’s farts per year, unbelievable.
Note: HDD means Heating Degree Day
If we all lived at the same advanced level, a few (3) hedgehog farts x 7.98 billion is not something to sniff at (pun intended)! That’s the paradox. What seems small to us, e.g., HA’s, mounts up if everyone on the planet gets the same deal, just multiply by 7.98 billion to get the full effect.
No that’s not what it means at all, and I hope you know that. I suspect what you’re referencing is the numbers for a particular product, numbers that are presented for ALL products. For that particular one, not much useful difference was seen.
That doesn’t mean ALL insulation is useless. It means that in that comparison there was no useful difference.
If it was a joke, it wasn’t a very clear one. If it wasn’t a joke, it was fact-folding - taking a snippet of truth and turning it around to seem to mean something it doesn’t.
Not funny. Much worse.