Oh I see I get it now, yeah I’d say your sitting just at the right position to have the air flow right across the microphone opening, if you tilted your head slightly it’s obviously not as bad right, and yes if you actually turned the lower frequencys down it’ll help (which is what the noise reduction does mostly anyway, i wouldn’t have this setting at maximum, it just muffles the sound quality anyway) it certainly sounds like you need a dedicated program set up for just your car, I guess you’ve tried tilting the air vents down towards the floor more instead off your upper body, if your interested in DIY you could actually set this program up on the fly, I mean you still want to be able to listen to your radio or talk to your passengers, worth looking into, and no doubt you’ve heard the Oticonians going on about the More/ Intent models being pretty good with wind noise reduction, seems the microphone opening/positioning has helped a lot for them.
Yes, i can tilt the vent but i was mostly just giving an example of how awful these handle even a subtle wind. If just my a/c on low is bothersome, just think how they sound outdoors on a windy day when the direction of the wind cant be controlled. Also probably some of it has to do with my loss and the gains i require.
And yes, as soon as Costco gets the 9050’s in, i will do a demo since i still have over 4 months with my trial on these and can exchange if better
Just to let you know that the Phillips aren’t the same as Oticon Intent, seems to more likely to Bernafon or Sonic, but still worth the trial if the Jabra are not doing the job for you.
I’ve had about a week with the adjustments the Costco tech made to try to reduce the wind and traffic noise, especially as I sit on my front porch. Some suggested (maybe in another thread) that my answer might lie in trying the M&RIE microphone. The tech disagreed with that. Her opinion was that gathering in more sound would be the result and that it would just make the problem worse. Instead she “fiddled” (sorry) with the settings in the all-around program (mostly) which is where I prefer to keep the aids most of the time. (The Outdoors program, even with the noise filter on, isn’t helpful for what I was hearing). I ended up deciding that what I was hearing sounded like static or a hiss.
I know that she turned up wind (or was it noise) reduction to “strong.” It wasn’t set to that. I watched her work. After making some auto-set changes, she then moved through some screens where she “boxed in” (in gray) some settings (was it in certain frequencies…beats me) and then applied the changes. She took me through several settings asking if the hissing/static was better or worse. And she repeated this “boxing in” work after a few of my responses. Speech was sounding weird after the changes. To me if seemed like she was speaking overly precise and clipped. It even hurt a bit on some sounds. She made some adjustments to fix that.
The result? It’s better. Not great, but definitely better than it was. Outside, in the all-around program, it gets even better if I turn the noise filter on. But to me it seems like that’s at a bit of sacrifice to understanding speech.
The tech thinks part of sense of the new sounds being worse than the old is that I was very used to my moulds. I believe her suggestion will be to return to moulds if I don’t adjust to these.
My apologies for my rather illiterate description of the steps the tech took to try to deal with the problem. But she did improve it. My sense of my old Resound Quatros sounding better in wind is also fading, nearly a month in. I’m going to stick with these Jabbras.
Before I got the Jabras from Costco, I failed miserably in doing my own homework. If you check Hearing Advisor, you will find that the Resound Nexia (aka Jabra Pro 20) is at the absolute bottom of their “hear in noise” rating for prescription hearing aids, and not by just a little, but a significant decrease from the next less worse device. The best “in noise” hearing aid, according to Hearing Advisor, is an Oticon aid so the best in noise available at Costco it is probably the Philips 9040 (hopefully to replaced soon by the Philips 9050). I am returning my Jabras on Tuesday and have decided to try the new Phonak Sphere albite at a little more than double the cost.
GL. I’ve never had a complaint about this feature with my Jabras. Use Hear-in-Noise pretty often. Works for me.
For dealing with wind “Ear Gear” is very helpful. (Little socks for your hearing aids) Also a light headband over your hearing aids can work. I don’t know if they still do but Costco gave me a pair of Ear Gear for my aids.
I agree. The “hear in noise” on my Jabra Pro 20 is much worse than my Audibel VIA Edge 2400.
I have the same experience @mystuart . I use the hear in noise program in loud crowded restaurants. I use noise filter and turn up the volume a little bit and everything except who I’m talking to goes quiet. However I have changed my directionality to the one that is on the restaurant program. So that I can change the focus manually from very tight to wide or leave it as automatic. I guess I like to tinker more than some. But does work for me quite well.
I’m really interested
Your post helps me a lot
Setup is so important. I’m glad she’s helping you
As the 9050’s are now at Costco, I would be very interested in your comparison between the JEP 20 and the 9050. I also tried the JEP 20, returning them after a couple of months due to numerous issues, but primarily the noise I heard. Not certain if that was the HAs fault or the audi that set them up.
Returning my 20’s next Saturday. Will trial both the 9050 and Reach. Leaning more toward the Reach but we will see…