Maybe its me but its not great…
Sounds like played through £2 headphones - very tinny etc.
Do people use their aids for music?
Compared to my Over the hear BOSE headphones they just don;t even come close…
What kind of fitting do you have? I’ve heard people with open domes make similar complaints about streaming music.
In my case I have those particular aids in a full shell custom ITE model and music sounds wonderful.
Hearing soft spoken people at a distance is another matter but that shortfall can hopefully be adjusted.
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Well, hearing aids aren’t made for music so… I use them for music, it’s not great but you can listen to music tbh…
Tell that to your Audi, there’s option to turn on bass boost when you’re streaming, when my Audi did that, sound quality was much much better.
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If you love music Widex has a great natural sound with lots of richness to it. I stream using the Comdex which is for the custom Evokes. The F2 Evokes stream direct to iphone in stereo.
you should be able to adjust the bass from your resound app… open app while streaming… it should open to Audio Streaming … at the bottom click on sound enhancer and make your adjustments
I believe that doesn’t change the streaming frequency response, just the live microphone frequency response, at least that’s my impression.
I just checked and it definitely doesn’t allow you to control the streaming, just the live microphones.
As my Audi has said hearing aids hopefully will help me understand speech, if they do that then they are doing their designed job. Beyond that is just a plus.
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There is no reason why the audiologist couldn’t add a bass boost for streaming in the Resound Quattros, but it would apply to streamed phone calls as well as streamed music. The reason why there is an absence of bass on streaming with an open fitting is that usually people with a mild or medium loss get quite a lot of bass directly into their inner ears from conduction through their skull. But if you are streaming then none of that conducted bass gets through of course.
Anyway it’s something to discuss with your audiologist rather than take suggestions for different aids from people here. What you perceive depends more on your hearing loss and how your aids are set up than on the make of the aid. For example my own experience of listening to music with hearing aids is that Widex are hopeless and Resound are much better, but you will find any number of people with different views to mine.
If you add your audiogram to your profile and describe your fit, open domes, power domes, custom molds with what size vent, etc., as others have suggested in the thread, folks will be more able to advise you what sort of solution might be available. If you are used to a Beats Audio type of bass, really ratcheted up, you’re not going to get that out of a hearing aid. Other Quattro users have complained about relative lack of bass but as david.hendon and ureout and others have noted, adjustments are possible.
You should be using the music program to listen. And you can always wear over-the-ear headphones on top of your hearing aids. If you have a very open fit, bass from your hearing aids will leak out of your ears more readily than higher frequencies but usually people with an open fit have relatively better low frequency hearing, so if that’s the case, listening to music via headphones will allow you to hear bass going directly to your ear drums and at some point going up the frequency scale, there’ll be a crossover to your HA mics and you’ll hear the high frequencies appropriately compensated through the HA’s. If you have a home audio system with a subwoofer and have good low frequency hearing and an open fit, you should be able to hear some deep bass in the same way as sound going directly to your ear drums. I intentionally wear a very closed fit and have good low frequency hearing. The closed fit helps increase bass volume delivered by my HA’s and with headphones or the home audio system strong deep bass can still make it through my unvented molds to a certain extent so I can get some much deeper bass, down at the lower limit of hearing range that I don’t think you’d get from most HA’s because they’re “speakers” can’t be that big.
But without posting your audiogram as part of your avatar, it’s hard to tell where you’re at. Check out my audiogram and others who have the “t” with a gray circle at the lower right of the avatar. Click on such avatars.
As others have pointed out, when streaming music you should be in Music mode which has much less processing and then via the Sound Enhancer button you can adjust Bass, Middle and Treble by +/- 6 decibels. Listen to a song you know well and play around with these values.
Nothing sounds worse than music through one’s hearing aids (by means of Bluetooth)! I use wireless headphones to listen to music with my aids in place. The headphones furnish rich bass and I need the high frequencies from my hearing aids to complete favorable listening. I need both. My hearing loss is now so severe I have difficulty listening / understanding my wife’s speech without my hearing aids. I could literally live without my glasses easier than my aids. I’m 84.
I play through TV Streamer 2 and go to the Resound app for that and hit bass boost. It is about as good as you can expect from a 1/8" speaker. It is decent but Hi-Fi, it ain’t.
I play through my iPhone’s music app, not the music setting on my ReSound HAs, since it will switch to iPhone regardless. Often I will add shortened memory foam earplug stubs outside the receivers in my ear for music because the tulip domes I use leak too much bass otherwise. This also helps with some programs’ audio through the streamer. Be careful not to take the volume up too much. As noted, it’s far from high fidelity, but better than no adjustments, especially if you choose the Bass Boost.
I cannot stream music directly to my hearing aids because the sound is awful with my type of hearing loss. I have Resound 3Ds. As you said it is awful. I use bone conduction headphones which work with sound vibrating to you middle ear and they are placed over and in front of your ears and are compact. One brand name is Aftershokz. Range in price from 75 to 160. They are Bluetooth and you can leave your aids on. You should be using the music program in the Resound app. Resound Q9s or Costco Resound Prezas are both a step above and may yield better results. I am a singer and piano player. Vocals sound bad with my aids and my nerve damage, but instrumentals do not unless there is too much harsh percussion. (Cymbals).
I have every Resound aid accessory except the TV listening device, also use the Resound app in my smart phone. Using my aids (for treble) and my over the ear wireless phones (for bass) music listening is perfect. The phone clip, mini mic and multi mic accessories sound terrible as the sound comes through the aids. Voice- just fine. Music? Nada. Your bone conduction headphones are as limited or more so than the hearing aids for any bass. Bass has to act upon one’s ear drums directly…
These standalone accessories in the default Smart Fit program for my ReSound Quattro’s use the same few millisecond attack/relaxation time constants for the application of gain compression that the basic programs, All-Around, Restaurant, and Outdoors, designed for speech recognition, not music, do - that would result in music trilling. It is much better to use the ReSound Music program whatever way that you are listening, through mix-in streaming, the HA external mics, (with or without over-the-ear headphones), etc. I guess one could always have one’s HCP reprogram standalone streaming to have long attack/relaxation compression constants but these devices are designed to aid SPEECH RECOGNITION and the extremely short attack/relaxation time constants are best for that, particularly in noisy environments. https://forum.hearingtracker.com/t/chirping-feedback-with-resound-linx-3d/56643/12?u=jim_lewis
So, YES, unless you like a sound-remix listening experience with a lot of disco trilling, DON’T USE the remote mic, Multi Mic, or TV Streamer 2 with their default setups for listening for music.
Thanks. You make some good points. Because my ears make a static like crackle sound when people talk or I talk, it makes it difficult to get clean sound on vocals. Bone conduction doesn’t crackle for me and I am more for vocals then bass. I was disappointed in the multi mic for music or TV just as you were. I actually think I may try some Eargo aids. They seem to have potential but I sent them back because they laid off my on-line help due to COVID and I could not get another.
I think I made it clear music through the aids with the accessories are ONLY of value for voice. NEVER music. I experience no feedback or ‘trilling’ using the aids to furnish the missing treble when using my high fidelity (over the ear) headphones. I am 84 and suffer from profound hearing loss. My Resound hearing aids are actually vital for my daily living. I couldn’t function without them. They work extremely well.
My, but we do need to “shout…!” (the post referred to was originally all BOLD lettering). Yes, you described how when you try it, it sounds terrible. I was just furnishing the exact reason it sounds terrible. Maybe your profound hearing loss has something to do with not hearing any vibrato effect? If you search past posts on the forum, you can find lots of other folks including guitar players upset with the way certain string notes sound when they play and often it’s because they’re not in a music program for their aids. I don’t remember whether any of the other posters described whether there was any headphone effect or not when not using the music program. One can go even further, though, on trying to make things right than just switching to the music program. In the past, TraderGary, who’s a trained pianist (I may be wrong but I think music was his college major) had his audiologist come to his house and as he played the different notes on his grand piano, the audiologist tuned his HA’s until each note along the keyboard sounded right to Gary. He’s written in the past that to him, his piano playing sounds great just through his external HA mics after the fine-tuning (Marvels can furnish a decent amount of bass for HA’s).
My comments were not meant to address your specific concerns or observations but to reflect the basic acoustics and program settings that cause most people, including many forum members, to have problems when using hearing aid settings that have fast attack/relaxation compression time constants and also to make clear that it’s not ReSound’s “fault” that the standalone microphone devices sound terrible for music listening. They aren’t designed from the gitgo for music listening and perhaps by stating the exact reason quite clearly, one can help others “appreciate” why, rather than be disgruntled about the poor music reproduction, as some may be if they don’t know why. That’s all there is to my post.
Although as a postscript here, perhaps part of my previous post was to correct that last phrase you used - the sound is terrible NOT because it comes through the aids but because for those devices the default setting provided by ReSound is to use a fast attack/relaxation constant for compressing different degrees of sound loudness differently. ReSound audiologists have stated in Audiology Online courses that effectively any program or device using these rapid time constants won’t work so well for music. It’s not the aids per se. The quality of sound reproduction of HA receivers vs headphone speakers is another matter and especially because of the amount of bass, I can clearly see the validity of your point that sound reproduced by headphone speakers, much of which might go directly to your ears especially if you turn up the volume a lot to compensate for profound loss, may sound great compared to HA receivers, no matter what HA program and compression attack/relaxation time constants you’re using.
This crackling static noise is because the MPO setting is too low at some frequencies. You should get the audi either to reduce the gain at the appropriate frequencies or to increase the MPO setting.