Roger on v Roger select

Hi,

I have severe to profound hearing loss and I’m looking for a device to boost my hearing, especially in noisy environments.

I recently found out that I couldn’t hear anything from the Roger Pen because I was using Receiver 03 instead of Receiver 02. Receiver 03 is a weaker receiver for the Oticon Xceed Play 1 UP.

I’m interested in purchasing a device with multibeam functionality. Do you have a preference between the Roger On and Roger Select? Also, does the Roger On work in table mode?

I would appreciate hearing about your experiences or any input you may have.

@Sara82
There are more then one or two differences between them.
It would be usefull to tell for what you want to use it for, to get the right answers.

Roger Selects you can connect to each other, so use more then one on a table. On’s are single.

The On do has a table mode you can direct in the app (as you can with the Select)

You can bother someone by hanging the On around his next, not so the bigger Select device which is more just for on a table.

Pointing can be handy with the On.
And so on…

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Your understanding of Type 02 and 03 receivers seems to be mistaken. Type 02 receivers are for Phonak educational devices such as the Roger Touchscreen, but also work with consumer devices. Type 03 receivers will work with any consumer type Roger device including Table Mic, Roger Select and Roger but not the educational devices.

In UK Ive been told for the Oction users to use Reciever 02 to connect Roger Pen : In our experience we have found that the output level of the Type 03 receivers is insufficient for use with Oticon hearing aids.

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Well, Im mainly looking for something to boost my hearing especially in noisy background, restaurant, in the car, taking it to my small office talking to my team.

This might be right but sounds suspicious. What’s your source? Is it somebody trying to sell you a Type 2 receiver? Can anybody else clarify whether there is any difference in strength between Type 2 and 3 receivers? (@Zebras perhaps or @kevels55 ?) I thought it was just compatibility with educational devices.

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Not selling to, but Ive had a Roger pen through Access to Work roughly around 2016. During that period I worn Phonak HA until NHS upgraded Oction Xceed in 2019. I have tried several times connecting Roger Pen just could not hear any output from Reciever 03 despite NHS activated Oction to Phonak Roger Pen along with receiver 03. So I’m stuck and completely lost.

Also, Im keen to upgrade Roger On but unsure which Reciever I would require to connect Oction Xceed? It is 03 or 02……

I would not buy anything until I am ascertain with information given beforehand.

Any suggestions or input would be greatly appreciated.

Sounds extremely “iffy” to me @MDB… The only difference I have found, Roger Type (02) are compatible with all Roger Devices, I have 2 sets of both, Type (02 & 03)… Cheers Kev

@Sara82
I assume that you mean with “boosting hearing” is just what every HOH needs namely speech recognition?
I tried the Roger Pen which is in comparance to the Roger On clearly less functional/ usable. Is the old version of more or less same device.

If your groups are 4 to most 6 people then the On is pretty good and nice to have on the table. If the group gets bigger it’s less effective in my opinion.

I use it as a passenger in the car which helps but my Sphere HA’s seem to do a better job at the moment, although I did not experiment it a lot untill now.

In my train traveling my On is a kind of spy weapon, my Spheres do their job, I can hear and talk to people. But if they are further away my spy does the work.

Problem in practical use could be the long time usage. I wonder if you stand the noise whole day long which is also amplified. My usecase is now and then turned on and most of the time of. But if you go for a walk or bike riding the On can be useful around the neck of the accompagniing person.

Wasn’t aware either of a property of output differences. But expert users as @MDB mentions will come in I hope to clarify.

Yes, sorry I should have mentioned ‘speech enhancement’

Interesting input from you and thank you for sharing your experience.

I hope so, with some clarifications too as I am keen to get bottom of it.

I could do with help from suggestions as I am struggling to hold of NHS.

I have Phonak hearing aids with both 02 and 03 receivers and they both appear to give exactly the same performance when connected to my Roger on, Select and Table Mic IIs. If you are going to purchase only one device, I would suggest the Roger On. The Roger On has all of the functionally of the Roger Select plus the pointing mode which is the mode I use most. The Roger On also can be used in the table mode or the presenter mode if desired. Also by using the MyRoger app the directionally can be controlled when used in the table mode. If you just want to use the device in meetings, then I would consider the Table Mic II. This has the advantage of being able to add additional Table Mic IIs together in a network fashion. While the Roger On can be networked with an additional Roger On or a Roger Select there are limitations e.g. the Roger On must be worn around the neck of someone and the connection is limited to one additional device. Those limitations are not present if you are using the Table Mic IIs.

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I’m out of the country so won’t be checking on the forum for 6 weeks. Currently travelling and can still access internet.

@Sara82
@raylock1
@kevels55
@MDB

Sara just needs her EasyGain adjusted.

It’s been well recorded that Oticon doesn’t sound as loud with the Roger set up.

Can someone explain EasyGain to Sara as I can’t spend much time on the internet.

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I was hoping if you can assist: how we find a serial number for the Reciever 03 as the company Ive bought back in 2014 are unable to locate the serial number. Ive got the serial number but unsure it was compatible to Oction Xceed?

I’ve got the feeling this 2014 Reciever 03 is may only compatible to Phonak HA only which I worn Phonak from 2014 to 2019? I could be wrong!!!

I am not very good with audiology term or techy person either

A couple of things.

  1. I assume you’re talking about a Roger X receiver ?(https://mlum7ex2ith4.i.optimole.com/w:auto/h:auto/q:mauto/https://www.hearingaidaccessories.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/PhonakRogerXreciever_image1.jpg)

  2. As per Zebras response, the issue is not the Type 03 receiver. The issue is that EasyGain needs to be adjusted. I’m sorry but I don’t know how that’s done. Can somebody provide an explanation. Ah. There’s links explaining it in firenzel’s post.

Yes, that’s right - that Roger Reciever.

I will ask Audio regarding Easygain. Hopefully, I get some luck with NHS appt! Not sure if the private audio will access to Easygain.

Sorry I was making you somewhat confusing and I appreciate your input which has immensely supportive.

I think the issue may be the “The Roger X Receivers”? Or possibly the Phonak (Oticon) Shoes, how old are these shoes? Perhaps Roger X Receivers, from 10 years ago, may be incompatible with Roger Assistive Listening Devices? For instance, only Roger (02 & 03) with serial numbers above 1744, will work with Marvel, paradise, Lumity, and Sphere, any Roger X Receivers prior to this, are basically obsolete… Cheers Kev.

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Thought this may be the case.

Reciever 03 was purchase in 2014 whereas Direct audio shoe (FM10) was purchased in 2022.

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I think that’s your problem @Sara82 … Newer Receivers will probably sort you out, I bought most of mines at a fraction of the cost from eBay, there are usually a few for sale on there, check the serial numbers before you buy, by messaging the seller… Good luck, cheers Kev.

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