@1Bluejay: I’ve read your Posts-Chock-Full-'o-Love to Lumify, and I have read literally dozens of other posts narrating your (interesting) HA escapades and adventures. You seem to be somewhat factual and objective, beneath the hyperbole. But this Lumify Loyalty has me stumped.
I’m just not sure yet that I buy it … and no offence is intended. (I find your contributions amusing snd thought-provoking, FWIW)
OK! Hours later! Hubs got out a USB-C tester, plugged it in to each of the the Phonak Lumity Life charging base adapters and found … they both work A-OK!
I got nearly identical readings on them as pictured here (appx 5 volts, 0.07 amps):
If anyone wants to buy a similar USB-C tester, he bought this one at eBay:
WOW These must be the metres @jim_lewis raves about! Are they kossly?
(Meaning - I wonder what USD$47.xx costs FOB destinations in 
Canada )
[I live in , BTW]
@1Bluejay: I’m quoting you here, because it’s the prime example of why I have no compunction about accepting Marvel owners’ accolades at their face value - this model seems to have provided stellar performance and reliability to Marvel users for years. Lumify … meh … not so much.
@1Bluejay: Now, I know you like blaming your Lumify troubles on the broader issue of rechargeable vs disposable, but I wish that you’d adopt the more rational approach that we Oticonians have adopted: namely that Oticon and Phonaq have been remiss in their due diligence by releasing models that - by virtue of their inferior batteries - are not "fit for purpose", and “call them up onto the carpet” for doing so!
An email I received from a previous VA Audiologist that checks on me even though I have not been in the clinic she works at for over 5 years. She and I did research that found some of my deeper hearing issues. She is at a conference and the subject of one of the lectures was hearing aid life without disposable batteries. She says that it is being forced on the companies to not even plan on there being zinc oxide button batteries available within the next few years. She said this could easily eliminate CIC, and IIC aids.
Sorry for passing on bad news, my comment back was there has to be a 1000% improvement in battery life and usability of the batteries.
For those who may be on the verge of soiling themselves, believing the last few posts to be * gasp * 
off-topic, the OP says that the subject has been beaten to death - but not that it is irrelevant to her discussion.
(I’ll leave it to @1Bluejay or @rasmus_braun to correct …)
Just replace the .com in the link with .ca.
Here’s the issue, quite possibly.
This has been mentioned a few times to you. Don’t connect your phone to your Aids for the day and see what happens.
There’s been many reports of Android 12 issue.
Can she send you more info e.g. the materials from the presentation, or the name of the person who presented? I tried searching for various combinations of “hearing aid battery” or “zinc air battery” with “phaseout” or “ban”. The only relevant hits I found involved the mercury battery phaseout, and something from 2004 about the EU wanting to ban hearing aid batteries because of lead content.
Two words: YE. GODS.
So it has come to that. And yet I bet I’m not the only Alien amongst us who needs 16 hrs per day of being able to HEAR. I have phone calls to make/receive, folks to talk to, entertainment in the evening. What are we to do if the rechargeables NEVER live up to our needs? It could get grim.
I live in dread of a call coming in with BT off. It takes a good minute or more to get BT on, go to settings, select the aid I have on, re-connect. Acoustic Phone is okay, but I get SO many calls from others on cell phones with horrid connections. That’s why - like a baby with my pacifier - I keep BT on, aids paired & connected so any split second I get a call I can stream with ease.
Even if that was the answer, it wouldn’t be sustainable for me to never have BT on. On top of which, why has this odd battery drain started just 4 days ago? I’ve been using the two pairs of Life aids interchangeably throughout the day for a few months now.
That is the mystery I hope to get to the bottom of.
@1Bluejay: Just to reiterate: I do, too! I wear my genuine Oticon brand More1 hearing aids usually from 5:00am until midnight, and every other day they may get an hour in one of my charger getups.
When they were new, my genuine Oticon brand battries would go the distance, easily. But I find that their ability to hold a charge diminishes rapidly after about 8 months of hard use like this.
Eight months of useful life before workarounds are needed doesn’t cut the ketchup for me!
But if the issue is your phone then getting new Aids is not gonna work.
Not asking you to leave Bluetooth off permanently but it’ll narrow down what the issue is.
It might be a simple solution of getting a phone with Android 13 rather than buying multiple pairs of Aids to get you through the day because of YOUR PHONE.
Seems excessive to buy extra pairs of Aids of like around $6000 or to buy a new phone that is like $500 or something.
The mystery is quite possibly your phone is the issue!
Yeah Chuck, I hear you… @cvkemp. Perhaps not loud, and clear though, given my loss 
but somehow I tend to think, unless they can improve hearing aid Li-on batteries by a significant amount of runtime, they are flogging a dead horse… They may wish to force rechargeable upon the market, but large dispensers like the NHS, at one time perhaps, the largest hearing aid dispenser in the world, they don’t do rechargeable aids, (and if they do dispense any, it’s minimal) for good reason, the NHS I should imagine want some longevity, and rechargeable aids won’t cut it, they would have to replace the rechargeable batteries every 2 to 3 years, and that’s time & money… Now I could see the NHS opting for rechargeable, if there was easy access to rechargeable battery compartment, it is then an easy fix, but then IMO, the hearing aid manufacturers wouldn’t be happy, it seems they are deliberately making these rechargeable aids, knowing full well the have a limited lifetime? Not to mention the BTE Super Power & Ultra Power aids, that require “Bigger Batteries” and a lot more oomph… I have followed this thread with interest, and if I was @1bluejay, I would be telling her A.uD to shove them, and give me a shout when the Lumity P13’s appear, if not then no thanks, because these rechargeable aids aren’t fit for purpose, no matter how well you hear with these 2 sets of aids, and to be very honest the seem to get rave reviews on sound, and clarity, but they are absolutely useless if they don’t hold a charge, and to be frank, having to buy 2 sets of Limity aids, to circumvent the runtime is an absolute failure in my book… Unless it is the Android 12 that is to blame, as @Zebras says? Perhaps you could borrow someone’s iPhone for a few days, to see if this solves the runtime issue? As always, YMMV. Cheers Kev
