Phonak Target Update

Noticed a new Target update yesterday. It was listed as “Audiogram Direct Remote Fittings”.
Got me to thinking about the DIY people helping forum members with their fittings.

There is an updated version available today, Phonak Target 6.2.8, which provides M-series firmware updates, solve the problem of restart in low temperature environment, improve the stability of charging device, and set the expected feedback threshold.

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I will take another look today to see if another update is available.

I thought the “remote fitting” update could open doors for some of us. Have not looked into it, just wanted to see if other members have seen it or tried it.

My take on the remote fitting update is that Phonak has provided for an audi with a remote support account to use ‘Audiogram Direct’ over the wire. As wonderful as it would be, I don’t think the functionality will be available to us DIY folks.

I did take a look at Target today looking for that update you mentioned. It was not there, Target was up to date. I wonder if the remote Audiogram Direct fitting was the update you loaded.

I did take a look around target trying to find any changes based on the remote fitting update. Did not find anything.

Here’s a link that explains things much better than I did!


If I buy a Target CD on Ebay can I upgrade the version on line?

Yes you can.
If you look for the software thread about sharing you could get it from a member. The DIY forum is full of information.

Anything lower then Target 5, you won’t be able to update to the latest, 6… from the update section.

Is it just me, or they removed Icube 1 from fitting devices in latest update (6.2.8)?

I had to reinstall old 5.4.2 version to be able to select Icube 1 as my fitting device…

Yep, that’s right, just upgrade to icube ll and you’ll be good to go for the newer target update (if you really need it) 6.0 or 6.1 should be fine for icube.
What model of HA do you have?

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thanks, but i have absolutely no intention of buying icube II since i have perfectly fine icube I…
i would never update if i had any idea about cube I removal, that’s ridiculous, honestly!
i’m using Naidas Q90 UP.
do you have 6.0 or 6.1 installation file by any case?

Just remember tho, that icube has a bug that can brick your HA, which the icube ll doesn’t have.
As a side note, if you use your icube by USB , you won’t run the risk of bricking/corruption issues.

thanks for warning, I wasn’t aware of that bug…
so, I’m safe if I’m connecting icube over USB cable?

I am not aware of any iCube Bug either. Is that a rumor? Reference please?

Why upgrade to iCube II when it’s going obsolete too?

Yes seems to be, but I still think you should get the icube ll, eliminate any future problems and be able to use the latest software/ plus it you wanted to upgrade your Q90 to Venture or Belong platform, as icube can’t be used on them.

Now there’s the rub. For the Belong platform the iCube II is not supported on the one new model in the B-Belong platform. That one new model is the the Audéo B-Direct (which has the new SWORD chip).

iCube II is only supported on the other older models which went unchanged from the previous platform (except for minor case mods/software mods).

So in a sense, because other Belong models are the same as Venture models, there is no iCube II support after V-Venture.

Most Belong aids do program with the ICube II programmer. The Directs do not though but they do program with the Noahlink Wireless I believe.

The HiPro (any of them) is still the choice to buy. It covers so many more aids.
From there buy the Noahlink Wireless.

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Don’t worry, the icube ll is supported by both the Venture and Belong platform, except that one B-direct model, since you use the Naída SP and UP from phonak you’re good to go for a icube ll on both those platforms.
Check out eBay, I’ve seen them for as little as $90.

Good luck.

Yes, Venture and Belong (except Belong Direct) can be programmed using iCube II. I never said they couldn’t. What I am trying to show is the evidence pointing to iCube II going obsolete. The evidence is plain to see if you look closely.

Do we agree that Venture and Belong (except Belong Direct) are the same hardware? If not, here’s a feature comparison of of Phonak Audéo V90/Brio2 <-VS-> Phonak Audéo B90/Brio3.

Hopefully we are now in agreement that Venture and Belong (except Belong Direct) are the same hardware. If they are the same hardware guess what that evidence means? It means that no new Phonak hearing aids in the last two platforms (Belong and Marvel) have support for iCube II.

Please let that sink in before you jump in to refute it. Now then, if no new Phonak hearing aids are supporting iCube II then it must be going obsolete, right? So why upgrade from one obsolete hearing aid programming device (iCube) to another going-obsolete hearing aid programming device (iCube II)?