Phonak Target ==> Noise Block or Gain?

I’m using Phonak Target with Marvel 70s.

I struggle to understand conversation in situations where the background noise is higher than an average of 45 db. I downloaded the app Decibel X and measured background noise in situations where I struggle. My QuickSIN is 12. For example, in a grocery store I can’t hear the overhead PA or the check out clerk; the avg background noise is 56 db. Other details of my loss is on my audiogram.

Fitting Formula is Adaptive Phonak Digital Contrast.

  1. Under program options, does anyone know what determines the default settings of Sound Relax, Noise Block, Wind Block and Whistle Block? Is that determined by my audiogram results?

  2. Would I benefit more in Speech in Noise/Comfort in Noise from increasing noise block, G50, G65, G80 or both? I need an education on what exactly is increased by adjusting G50, G65 and G80. I have Bass Boost set at HIGH (attempt to reduce tinny sound) and SoundRecover2 is active.

  3. If, for example, G50 is increased, do you increase it across the spectrum of 170 Hz to 8.5 Khz or at only certain frequencies? Same question if its suggested to increase G65 and/or G80.

Thank You in advance


G80 = 80 dB.

G65 = 65 dB.

G50 = 50 dB.

I found BassBoost increased background noise as you’re increasing low frequencies.

For me, I get better speech in noise with NAL 1 or NAL 2.

Too much background noise with APD for me.

Default NoiseBlock etc is standard. Nothing individually to you.

Increasing NoiseBlock and more is up to you. Nothing means you have to stick to default.

“”increase it across the spectrum of 170 Hz to 8.5 Khz or at only certain frequencies?””

This question is answered by what you select. If you only select one frequency on G what ever number then you’ll only adjust one frequency.

I added a mask program, then copied the setting to all in AutoSense and deleted the mask program. Might as well have the added clarity all the time.

I believe the defaults are determined by your audiogram, so one with mild loss will have less “noise block” then someone with severe loss.
So when you change one “band” you’ll notice that it also changes others, you can’t change just one frequency response, but yes you should try to adjust only those frequencys that you need, so finding which ones is the trick, a tone/ generator or something like that could help you, the target has a built in media sounds as well, maybe you can have a go at that as well.
Fitting formulas can make a big difference for some @Zebras mentioned.

“This question is answered by what you select. If you only select one frequency on G what ever number then you’ll only adjust one frequency.”

If you highlight either G50, G65 or G80 the entire row is highlighted and you can increase or decrease by 1 db with a click of the arrow in the center.

However I am trying to understand the science behind increasing G50, G65 or G80 at any given frequency.

I am trying to increase more speech volume for Speech in Noise program

Yeah that’s unusual, one would think someone with mild wouldn’t need the noise reduction set at the same as someone with severe, thanks for letting everyone know, but interesting nevertheless.

You can “hover your mouse” over and only click on only what you need right, it’s a while since I used target tho,so you don’t have to just click on say G50.

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