Phonak Naida P70-UP

Hello everyone! After receiving the programmer, I adjusted the hearing aids and improved the settings. Now I am satisfied with everything. I have a question. Will the “Speech in Noise” program eat up batteries a lot? Because Autosense is of little help at work, because it is played. Therefore, I forcibly turn on the “Speech in Noise” program to hear what my colleagues are saying to me. But I do not know whether this is a burden.

Yes it will use up a bit more battery, but not by much, do you have rechargeable or disposable Phonak models.

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I don’t find speech in noise costs excessively, particularly compared to speech in loud noise. That eats up battery on my Audeo p90s! Naidas might be different but I wouldn’t expect so.

WH

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No, I have 675 batteries.

Thank you for your opinion! I should still try to turn on the program “Speech in Noise” every day during work. Outside of work hours, I will put the program Auto.
Let’s see how long it will last.

You cannot get even manual “Speech in Loud Noise” functionality because it requires a second hearing aid to connect wirelessly, coupling the microphones on that aid and finally enabling narrower beamforming.

In Speech in Loud Noise there are 4 microphones working (2 from each hearing aids).

The only solution is buying a Naida CI CROS Paradise (make sure it is compatible with your Target software). However, outcomes may vary depending on the individual and access to Real-Ear Measurements and it can be costly.

Didn’t you have a CI evaluation for your poorer ear?

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Ah so that’s plenty of juice the 675, you can recharge (swap then out) in less then 30secs, that’s the beauty of disposable type.

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Luckily, I decided against cochlear implantation. I’d rather get a good hearing aid than have surgery. It’s risky and there’s no point if I can hear through a hearing aid. As for the second hearing aid for the “Speech in Loud Noise” program, I have already understood this and have come to terms with it, since the second ear hears absolutely nothing. That’s why I go with one hearing aid.
It all started because I stopped wearing two hearing aids as a child because it wasn’t pretty. I wore one. I could hear well with both ears. But now my right ear has completely degraded.And I lost the ability to distinguish and understand sounds. I can only hear bass on the second ear, and on the first I can hear every note, words, melody.

I agree. It is very convenient. Also, 675 batteries are powerful, one such battery lasts for 3 weeks. I wear it almost 10 hours a day. I am almost always in a noisy place. Autosense always uses the programs “Speech in noise” and “Comfort in noise”, and also listen to music via Bluetooth or watch a TV series. On average, 3 hours of streaming. Surprisingly, I wear Phonak Naida P70-UP already 1.5 years. In all this time I have used only 2 packs of 675 batteries. Before that I had an old hearing aid on the platform Oticon , which cost about 40 thousand rubles at the time. They had 13 batteries. And it irritated me that the batteries ran out quickly (about 5 days). In addition, there was no Bluetooth before. And the hearing aid was without noise cancellation, which caused great discomfort. I could hardly understand the speech of people who spoke to me. I heard only noise. Because of this, I was often ashamed. But now everything fell into place, new Phonak Naida P70-UP gives me pleasure.

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I respect your decision; however, I want to ensure you made it fully informed:

  1. Your better ear has severe hearing loss. So you’re in quite risky position, because it is quite possible that one day you will be completely deaf in it without a rehabilitated second ear with a CI as backup.

  2. The longer your poor ear is unstimulated, the harder it is to rehabilitate.
    Of course, I had rehabilitation myself after 20 years of deafness, so it is possible, but it is much harder than doing it shortly after deafening.

It is also more difficult to rehabilitate if you wouldn’t have better ear as a control.

  1. I don’t know who told you that CI implantation is risky, but that is simply not true, or it is an overstatement regarding the much-improved quality of life after getting a CI.
    Yes, there is always a risk of side effects or complications, but the majority of them are relatively mild and reversible. Not to mention that even driving a car is risky, but no one gives it up.

There are many more normalized, but riskier, surgeries; for example, appendicectomy or orthopedic surgeries, etc.

Nevertheless, it is your life and your decisions; I just provide my experience.

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In Russia we don’t have the best technology. The hearing aid for cochlear implantation is simply huge, which looks ugly. And the magnetic coil that is in the “cochlea” is very fragile. Therefore, after the operation, we will have a magnetic coil in our ear + a huge hearing aid cochlear implantation limits us to sports activities: such as running, swimming, wrestling, etc. As I already said, the magnetic coil is very fragile and, if it breaks, it can no longer be fixed, and we will be haunted by headaches for the rest of our lives.

For what I know, the e.g. CI632 is exactly the same device regardless of where it is obtained in Australia, USA, Russia, etc.

Again, this is simply not true or at least an overstatement. The device can withstand external impact of up to 2.5 joules, which is quite severe and can make concussion. The impact must be a direct hit exactly at the place of the coil, which makes it much less probable. There is source about 2.5 joules:

Regarding headaches, this is not entirely true. Even if we suppose the worst-case scenario (which is very rare), the coil most often stays in place, and in worse situations, it can be relatively easily explanted.

The only case where headaches can occur is after the activation of the sound processor, when the patient too ambitiously and too quickly increases the level of stimulation, causing sensory overload when he/she hasn’t yet accustomed to it.

I must respond keeping in mind that there are other forum users reading that and making decisions, refusing devices which can substantially improve their quality of life based on untrue information.

I don’t know who told you about breaking the coil or where you read about it. I am interested in the source of that information.

There are documents about the reliability of the internal and external devices, which is very high, even after years:

This page in Russian:

This is comprehensive precautions about Cochlear CI632 device. Keep in mind that I have a much older model (CI24RE, which was released to the market around 2005), and I have no issues.

https://mss-p-007-delivery.stylelabs.cloud/api/public/content/59f27c8a69d3433e8d11dca35b891a33?v=a61a2a68

Again, it is not true. There are many testimonials about a relatively normal life with a cochlear implant. There are aqua accessories that let you even swim with it. The general rule is to avoid direct hits, which is very easy, especially if the user wears a helmet.
The same applies to RICs/power hearing aids.

I normally run, scuba dive up (after temporarily taking off the external device). According to the documents, CI users can dive up to 40 metres underwater.

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Here are the opinions of people who have received a second cochlear implant, which translates to a bimodal condition, known as CI+HA.