Thanks for your quick reply and your opinion, I think you are so right, I just loved the fact you can talk during the phonecalls without needing the mic of the phone to speak to it, because the Phonak HA use their own mics!
Thanks for your quick reply too! I know about the ASHA support for Android and the BLE of the last Widex models but, could it be right that it would only be available,at least for the moment, only for the latest Google Pixel phones? I mean, sounds like a few months of waiting before other Android phones brands release the ASHA support too. Am I wrong?
Also, I thought the battery should have a better performance using Widex BLE than using Phonak standard Bluetooth, but some comments in this forum topic say that although Phonak Audéo Marvel HA use standard Bluetooth, the battery performance is great!
I get 6 days use with occasional streaming with a Marvel and a 312 cell.
Cells are $22 for 80. So $0.28 each. And less than $0.10/day for both ears. $0.15/day if you prefer to change every 4 days to avoid going-flat at a bad time.
Considering a smartphone can cost $0.10-$1.50/day ($50-$600 for a year or two including accidents, not including cell-plan), I don’t see how battery cost is any issue.
I’m speaking from what I’ve read from others–not personal experience. The Marvels using their own microphones on phone calls can be both a blessing and a curse. Sounds like in quiet situations it works pretty well. In noisy situations, not so much and there is no easy work around that I’m aware of. Regarding battery life with Marvels–there seems to be a lot of variability, but if you have a notable loss and/or stream a lot, it could be as bad as 3-4 days on 312 batteries, probably close to a week with 13s. Cost isn’t really an issue with hearing aid batteries as long as you shop a bit (don’t go to your local drugstore and buy a 6 pack) It can be a convenience issue though if you’re use to doing it every week to week and a half and are all of a sudden doing it every 3-4 days.
I think that my decision will be to get an iPhone (as @MDB told me) because my actual phone soon needs to be replaced and I’ll take advantage of that.
Also because it’s been just a year since I’m wearing the new pair of Widex HA and I don’t know what kind of financial plans do you have here in your countries, but I’m from Catalonia, Spain and the hearing care center offers a 3-year plan where you get your new Widex HA + 3-year free 312 batteries + all kind of maintenance + wax filters replacements for these years, all that paying monthly about €180 ($200) for the high-end Widex HA. After these 3 years, you can get the newest Widex HA 3 years after and continue paying the monthly fee with all its benefits or pay what’s left to pay from the ones you’ve been wearing during the last 3 years and stop paying monthly. I guess getting the new ones with new technology improvements is a great option. So, that being said, I still have 2 years ahead to finish this 3-year monthly fee financial plan and it’s the other reason to go for an iPhone and I’ll wait and see if Widex release some exciting new features or technology that I can get 2 years later or I’ll think about a HA brand change because of any lack of technology in Widex.
Again, thank you so much for your opinions and excuse me for my long post, I almost don’t get noticed and I’ve written some of my life’s chapters!
I had windex dream HAs a few years back, but had problems with moisture in the right one. They required a streamer which I never got. I used resound linx2 with iPhone. Streaming was great indoors; not so hot outside. I’m sure technology has improved since then. My issue in that combo was the phone.
Currently I’m using an LG G6 with Phonak Audeo M 90 Rs. For me the combo has worked so well that I’m hesitant to try any other phone! To be fair though, I have had a great experience using them with my Samsung Galaxy A 8 tablet. Streaming is awesome even outside! And voice recognition is outstanding!
Hmmm–I haven’t been on for a while. Guess I’m a tad too late. But I do wish you the best of luck!
The low energy bluetooth streaming ala ‘Made for Apple’ and some of the the newest Androids is better than standard bluetooth. The energy consumption is less. I find it more stable. I tried Marvel and went BACK to Quattro…but to the BTE Quattro. For me, RIC/RITE aids are a needless pain in the rear. Receiver durability was absolute crap. …both Resound and Phonak. Earmolds last and last.
I havent tried Widex, and I will not be for now. Resound’s accessory line works perfect for me.
Phonak’s Marvel is a wonderful hearing aid…don’t get me wrong. Oticon, Phonak, and Resound are all right there together. All make great hearing aids. I have been wearing them for 43 years.
Marvel does stream standard bluetooth and does it very well. It does use the hearing aid microphones as your ‘earpiece’ mic when you are on the phone. In a quiet environment is is awesome. In noise, it is utterly useless. I use Resound’s phone clip for my 2 way radio at work. It works well with the phone clip acting as my radio microphone…as long as it isn’t too noisy. The Phone Clip microphone has issues with loud noise…not automobile noise…which the marvel has a hard time with…but factory…wearing earplug type noisy environments. So I simply use a regular microphone on the radio. The Radio allows me to select to use the bluetooth mic or the radio mic…I use the radio mic…by extension the wired external mic.
As for batteries… I got into the rechargeable side with Quattro RIC and Marvel…and I liked it. Oh to be free of changing batteries!!! However, while Resound handled my 12 hours of streaming in a shift plus about 6 more hours…Phonak Marvel…not so much… I went back to Resound but to the BTE version of the quattro which didnt come in a rechargeable…I was SOOOO sad. UNTIL!!! Batteries are so cheap now!!! Then even with 48 hours streaming a week…my size 13 is lasting 8 days!!! I pop a battery in and go!!! I felt absolutely liberated. I found that rechargeable in a hearing aid is a hassle…but Resound is better with their rechargeable system. They use a compact inductive charger… Phonak uses a charger with contacts. Folks - Induction charging is what you want. No physical contact parts to wear out. I use wireless charging on my iphone, my Apple watch, and I wish it were available for my iPad Pro. The charge port has historically been the bane of every rechargeable thing…the smaller - the more so…
Marvel battery life… if you stream…six hours a day and charge nightly…you will be fine.
Since you asked, I wouldn’t get an iPhone if my life depended on it. But that’s just me, YMMV.
Hi, I will have to put on my hearing aids but for the moment everything seems stuck.
Kate and I both have M90-R
Purchased Dec 2018
After 1 year 4 months use…
Both still easily last 16 hour day.
Average about 40% battery remaining at end of day.
Are you happy with these hearing aids? Are they the first ones you take or did you already wear them?
Kate and I are both first time HA users. We are pleased with them.
Phonak marvels 70r. I average 15 hours per day. Usually 30% charge left. I have meineres disease in my left ear. Hearing fluctuates in left ear, I can use my phone to adjust my aids as needed. Did have Phonak b50. On my trial period with the marvels, I knew by the 2nd day I was buying them. Big difference. Have had the marvels 15 months. Still pleased with them.
With my Marvel M90-R on any normal 18 hr day of use with 3 to 4 hrs TV streaming and up to an hour of music streaming I’m down to 20% at night. The only time they’ve died is when I leave them in the Loud Noise setting for over an hour - it kills the battery every time.
For those using disposable batteries, does the right one usually go first? I’m thinking this might be related to it being the side that does the streaming.
Yes, usually the more you use Bluetooth streaming, the quicker the battery depletes. Usually, the hearing aid which is connected to the Bluetooth device, goes faster.
I have a M90-13T. It lasts anywhere from 4 to 6 days depending on the amount of streaming. I also have a Linx Quattro and have been switching back and forth between them. I like the Marvel because of RogerDirect (I have a Pen and Select) so I don’t have to change out the battery door to add a Roger receiver like I did on my Ventures and Beyond.
For streaming, I think the Marvel sounds better since it uses full bluetooth rather than a paired down version like the MFi hearings do. The one thing that keeps me from really liking the Marvel is the use of the hearing aid mics for phone calls. If you are in a quiet environment, they work great but as soon as you try to make a call in a noisy place it’s pretty much useless. I’ve had better luck using the Quattro (with the builtin iPhone mic) in noisy situations. I really wish Phonak had a way where you could use the PartnerMic as the mic for phone calls. They could make it fallback to the builtin mics if the PartnerMic is not connected.
I know Advanced Bionics is going to release a new processor based on the Marvel line. This is another reason that may keep me using the Marvel. At least I’ll be able to stream bluetooth to both the hearing aid and the CI without having to resort to my Roger Pen/Select or telecoil.
Apart from streaming which hearing aid is better
And also how do both hearing aids perform in noisy environment such as restaurants. Also how is your experience with Roger select in noisy environment . Is Roger select good enough in noise? Your input will be greatly appreciated as it will help me decide which brand to opt for .