Phonak Lumity Naida 90 UP BTE Review

Hearing Aids
#165

Kev thanks for posting.

I have used Phonaks for more than 10 years. 3 sets.
I was sitting in the front passenger seat in my Jeep Wrangler taking photos. Paradise P90R’s. Jeep is noisy. I didn’t even know that there was a conversation going on…no idea.

Way-back? This wouldn’t have happened with my first Phonaks set up the way they were by a wonderful audiologist.

Now? First they have to be set up properly for features to work. Compression…gain…and the HA’s have motion sensors! and Directional Mikes! And background noise suppression! and more–frequency shifts!

I’m really glad your setup works for you. In about 3 years I shall qualify for new hearing aids under workman’s comp.

As my hearing deteriorates I likely shall need Naida 90 BTE’s But they do not dispense the top rated hearing aids. And I believe they don’t buy accessories such as the ones you describe.

Thanks for your post.

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#166

You are welcome Dave :smile: A few years ago now, thinking back, probably 11 years, the reality dawned on me, if the state wasn’t going to provide me with the best possible hearing aids, as a duty of care, then it was up to me, as a duty of care to myself, to fill that gap… It was a learning curve, and the Internet was/is my educator… I will literally spend days, researching, reading up, watching YouTube videos, reading hundreds of reviews from many different sources, I will jump in at the deep end, and be one of the early responder’s on the uptake of a new hearing aid, simply because it’s my passion, and I am already saving for the next iteration of Phonak Naida in a couple of years time or so? Hearing well with my level of loss, will inevitably be a major challenge… In conjunction with Roger devices, I bridge that gap, and the impossible becomes entirely feasible… Without fear or favour, I can truthfully say, with Roger devices, in “certain situations”, I hear better than I did, prior to SSNHL, and if you think about it, that is a massive endorsement of how effective Roger is, I can now hear better in noise, than someone with pitch perfect hearing!!! In most instances, I do not advocate buying new Roger devices, they are way too expensive, shop around, be patient, try on the likes of eBay, you take a chance, and its a gamble, picking reputable sellers helps your odds, but you can unearth a bargain. Cheers Kev :smile:

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#167

I think I’m basically following your story, only 150 miles south of you :slight_smile: . My 2nd & 3rd NHS adjustment appointments were totally inadequate. I just knew I should be hearing better (like @DaveL with his P90s). So I went private as well.

Tonight, I’m also travelling to a pool match, so I’ll take my Roger On with me. I shall try placing it in the front by the gear shift, while I’ll be sat in the back. I’ll report back later… if I can type :wink:

I won’t have the courage to take the lanyard. My P90s only have Music and Comfort in Echo, and generally hearing speech in a moving car isn’t good for me. The Speech in Car setting did nothing for me.

Chat later
Peter H

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#168

Hi Peter, yeah I know that NHS feeling, of being totally underwhelmed with their fitting :rofl: Good luck tonight in the pool match :smile: I would be inclined to hang it off the rear view mirror on the lanyard, that’s central, and about head hight, also try the Pen with the hearing aids muted & unmuted… Cheers Kev :wink:

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#169

@PeterH

I used to use the Phonak APP a lot. It was encouraged by the dispensing audiologist.

I found a couple of things that helped. Using the APP I keyed the Clarity button. Saved the program. If you check the EQUALIZER display,
Bass is not affected
Mid is increased one notch
Treble is increased two notches.

Makes a huge difference for me. But the saved program eats the rechargeable batteries on my hearing aids.

Way back the owner of this site posted instructions on a program to use when the speaker is wearing a surgical mask. Made a wonderful difference–HUGE–for me. I posted about it. I can’t find my posts on this site. The program came from PHONAK.

I regret I don’t have enough skill to find my old posts on this forum. Causes me lots of grief.

#170

@DaveL
I’m with you on the Clarity option being best.

This tells me that your expectations of what hearing aids need to be are similar to mine.

The problem I see is that Phonak suggests you make these personalised programs, that are just right, then you should tell your Audiologist, and they’ll replicate it with a fixed program.

Well, how are they going to do that? Target doesn’t have a 3-band Graphic Equalizer, and its Feedback management and whistleblock will just stop you doing it anyway.

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#171

Hi @kevels55

I put the RogerOn on my knee in table mode, basically between the 2 front seats. I switched up the volume on the aids, so it was very much mostly RogerOn. Although the sound wasn’t as natural as I prefer, I could hear everything said from all 4 people. Success.

I feel, next time I try it, it’ll be the opposite :slight_smile:

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#172

How does the Pen compare to the On here? I thought the On was intended to replace the Pen, but if the Pen is better for these situations, I might spring for one!

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#173

@PeterH there is a way. @Zebras will remember the article. I think it was on Audiology online.

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#175

3 band just means low, mid and highs. The software can select 3 channels instead of 20 which means it’s can be adjusted.

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#176

I never did a direct comparison test @CombatWombat I should have done so, as I had a Roger Select, and the Roger On, in my jacket pocket at the time. But, it could possibly be the Roger Pen & Naida Lumity combination, that’s at play here? It could also be, the Pen is a lot newer than my old Roger Pen? From recollection alone, bearing in mind, the last time I used the Roger On inside a car, it was with my Naida Paradise, lanyard mode was also very good to excellent, but I would say, if given the choice, I would probably pick the Pen, over the On, for using in the car alone… You can pick them up, fairly cheaply as you know, on eBay… Cheers Kev :wink:

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#177

Hi Peter, confirmation please, is this a Roger Pen or a Roger On, you where using last night in the car? Cheers Kev :wink:

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#178

I get that, but Target won’t let me boost those highs

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#179

@kevels55
Roger On, in table mode. I have a Roger Pen and a Select too.

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#180

Yes I’ve found that. Target think it knows what we want to hear or not hear.

Annoying.

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#181

Are you bumping up against a feedback limiter? (I’m totally ignorant of how that -target programming- all works, but throwing out ideas.)

WH

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#182

Did that with the dispensing optician for about a year and a half. Last visit he erased all those changes; took my Phonaks and did a quick fit with a hearing test that wasn’t accurate. Don’t know how he got that test. It heard much better than I can.

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#183

@WhiteHat
I think that’s exactly what happens. It’s very strange that the app allows the changes (without any resulting feedback), but the actual fitting software make it, at best awkward

Peter

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#184

I think some fitting sw has a feedback prevention setting (not sure what it is called) which can be turned off to let you have that control at risk of fb. Turn it off and make your changes.

I’d say just don’t do that when you can’t go back and adjust if it fails by giving you too much fb. (Suffer through three week trip without your fitting setup and your HAs are screaming !)

I bet someone in the DIY section will know far better than I.

WH

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