Phonak Brio 3


#8

I will. I just put in the heading what was written on the order form and that came off the Costco order site the the person used to order them.


#9

Truth be told, they are pretty much the same as the previous model. Click the link in my previous post and scroll to the bottom. I’m not saying this is a bad deal for you. It’s just that “newest” is not an apt description for this model.


#10

My bad. I just looked at Rasmus’s post and they do include the “R” in their designation even though they are not rechargeable. Definitely confusing. Again, my apologies. Agree with PVC that there are few differences from the older model, but do think Sound Recover 2 is a significant plus if one has the right (or wrong, depending on perspective) hearing loss to take advantage of it. From my understanding, Sound Recover 2 could be most helpful to people with severe to profound high frequency loss that starts around 2000hz or lower. It also might not help at all, but it can be quite helpful to some people.


#11

The R just means RIC (Receiver In Canal) models. Most people just drop the R unless they want to talk specifically about different models.


#12

That would imply that SoundRecover 1 (the original SoundRecover) was flawed or was a failure. I think that SoundRecover 2 is more of a tweak instead of a significant or noticeable change.

More specifically, it varies the “lower” and “upper” cut-off frequency adaptively as a function of the input signal.


#13

Sound Recover 1 is static frequency compression. The lowest “start frequency” is 1500hz. It is always “on.” Sound Recover 2 is dynamic. It kind of has two different modes. If it does not “sense” high frequency energy, it stays in kind of a “gentle mode,” where the frequency compression is less agressive. If it “senses” high frequency energy, it kicks into a more agressive mode and lower high frequency sounds down to as low as 800hz. My understanding is Sound Recover (1st version) works ok for some people, but many don’t tolerate it. I don’t think Sound Recover 2 is a miracle or cureall, but I’ve read enough from Susan Scollie and Josh Alexander to believe it’s possible benefits are more than hype. At least one audiologist on the forum has spoken well of it too. I’ve also had private communications with audiologists who have positive experiences with Sound Recover 2. So, I’d disagree that it’s just a minor tweak.


#14

No worries. The last thing I wanted to do was confuse anyone.


#15

By “newest” I’m going to guess and say for Costco they are the newest release.


#16

Yes they are “newest” because no one wants to buy “old”. During your trial pay attention to the benefits of SoundRecover2. If you receive no benefit from SoundRecover2 then Brio 3 is the same as Brio 2.


#17

Sad that Brio 3 isn’t rechargeable. so not much “NEW”.
Basically the V and B platform are the same except for Sound Recover 2 .
Is that correct?


#18

Well no, not exactly. The Brio 2 and Brio 3 are same except for SoundRecover2.

The Phonak B platform has the handy-dandy brand-spanking-new Phonak Audéo B-Direct with the new SWORD chip technology. But that new technology is limited to just that one Phonak Audéo B-Direct model. And the new technology in that one model has not been transferred to Costco.


#19

I guess I was just thinking Costco. I have no hearing insurance coverage.


#20

Costco Phonak, not rechargeable and no direct to iPhone capability.
So really, besides sound recover 2, it’s the same as it has been. boo


#21

Here’s a silver lining for self programmers. You can just tuck this information away in the memory bank between your ears. Later when Brio 2’s and Brio 3’s show up for sale on EBay, the Brio 2’s will likely be priced much lower.

Then you can buy a pair of Brio 2’s for dirt cheap and program them yourself.


#22

I had a hearing test done today at Costco. Thanks to a recent shooting event, my hearing has gotten worse in both ears. I tested the new Brio 3’s in the store. I was very impressed with the background noise cancelling. Almost nothing. I was not having such great results with hearing. I took them back and he adjusted the volume and they still weren’t right. The Bernafon’s I’ve had for 7 years were better. Maybe it’s just that I’m used to them and not to the Phonaks? I want to do another demo before deciding to invest $2500 in new HA’s and see if he can do a better fit. If the hearing improves, the background elimination alone would sell me on them.

Thoughts?


#23

So I have had these for about 3 to 4 weeks now. I can say that yes my hearing is much better and with regards to the Sound Recover 2, I can really tell the difference with it on in a restaurant setting. It really cuts “out” a lot of the background noise so that I can hear people that I am sitting with at the table.


#24

Here ius a link to the Phonax
Brio Product Information. It should give you what your want. If you want more ask the Costco specalist and they should give it to your. I have the Brio 3 and got the additional information above this link’s from Costco. But the link is enough unless you are looking for really technical stuff.


#25

I got hearing tested at Costco and ordered Phonak Brio yesterday. Have had two Bernafon and one Oticon set in 20 years. Am interested in your experience with your new set. Thanks for sharing.


#26

I just received my Brio 3 from Costco last night. Previously I had been wearing the KS-7, which were a huge improvement from the KS-6. I tried the KS-8, but they seemed similar to the KS-7 except for streaming. The audi said the Brio 3 would be a big improvement from the KS-7. He also said the Brio 3 was not the latest Beyond platform, but the one previous. The new platform adds streaming directly to your device, but many of the features were put into the Brio 3 (SoundRecover 2 etc.)
Looking forward to trying them out, so far it seems I am able to understand speech better.


#27

I’ve had my first two weeks with the new Brio 3 from Costco Wholesale. They have been quite remarkable, comfortable to wear and a full two weeks with Size 13 batteries before I needed to change yesterday. I am wearing them the entire day. I have had to learn to adjust the sound levels - up and down - but have discovered more sounds that I could ever dream of hearing.

If anything, I might like the program changed to a slightly more natural sound and with a stronger lower decibel pitch. Not sure how this is accomplished but I will ask the Costco audiologist in a future visit.