Yes. Your marvels have a pin that needs to be pushed about a millimeter to unlock it from the hearing aid–if you drive it through, you have to send the hearing aid for repair so if you have any concern at all get your provider to do it. But there are videos on YouTube that will show you how. No pin in the Life, it’s just plug and play.
Yes, but in my experience it doesn’t always work perfectly, so the hearing aids should still be checked and verified after the settings transfer.
It’s coming. The system is $$,$$$ with ongoing yearly $$$$ cloud fees, so it is going to take some time for a lot of providers to adopt it. I can’t see that it really pays for itself over time either (e.g. it is not faster or cheaper) and earmolds are already expensive with low profit margins, so it will be a tough decision especially for smaller providers who also do not want to offset that cost onto their patients.
(I bet Cliff got his cheap-to-free given his influencer status.)
WOW! That was fast! In the time it took to just discuss this with my hubs, you’ve already responded! MUCH OBLIGED! 
I greatly appreciate that bit about being cautious with the Marvel receiver … and will wait to have my new audi do that for me (if it comes to that). Maybe a quicker resolution would be to just PULL the receiver on my Life aids out of their custom molded tip?
But again… PATIENCE. I just want to see if the sound quality is a function of the TIP on the receiver or the frequency band programming. Cuz something isn’t right with the new aids. Music streamed through my phone sounds like a BAD BAD public address system: very distorted, thin, harsh, like it’s all high and mid-range frequencies and no rich depth to it at all.
Depending on what sort of tip you’ve got, yes it’s friction fit. Do be a little careful because if you pull it wrong you can strip the wire, but that was more an issue with the old receivers than the new ones. And yes, if the tip is fitting poorly and causing too much venting that can certainly affect the sound quality. It’s also important that your audiologist inputs the acoustic code writen on the tip into the software. Also, changing the tip changes the programming requirements.
Oh, depending on the custom tip it can be hard to get the tip back ON if you don’t have a specific little tool. Maybe worth getting in to see your provider about.
I got these when I was first replacing my Starkeys. I actually liked the sound and the ear tap interface. I went swimming with them a couple of times, always with a swimming cap. However, because they’re only rechargeable and I was streaming music very often, they often ran out of battery before I got home. I decided to swap them for Paradise, as they have replaceable batteries but I have lost the ability to go underwater with them or to interact with them by tapping my ears.
ALL good advice to be heeded! I am just going to have to wait this out till I get back in to see the audi…
She was SO sure that with a snugger fit the aids would give me better sound. I DO love that they are that sticky-friction kind of silicone. Never once had to push them in during the day, and that’s something I do like 100 times a day with the double domes.
I can totally relate to your choice here. While I probably don’t stream music as often as you, I DO find that streamed music is a great way to get through a workout; phone call and movie streaming also eat up the charge.
I am probably going to go the same route - swap these for Paradise battery aids. I’ve never been a fan of rechargeables, and the ONLY reason I got these Life aids is for the promise of being able to do water sports with them on.
I’m a new hearing aid user since October 2021, i have the Paradise P90s rechargeable, i wear my aids from about 9 in the morning to 10 at night and before i take them off theres about 65-70% battery life remaining, that’s just having them on in the automatic program without any streaming, so i could easily get more than 2 full days out of a full charge, i don’t stream music, but i do like a podcast or audio book when i’m driving, so in that case i could wear my aids all day and listen to an audio book for about 4 hours and still have plenty of charge left at 10PM. I stick them in a dehumidifier at night and charge them in the morning, they don’t even take that long to charge, and i imagine because they are a sealed unit, they’d be more water resistant than the 312 battery operated aids, and they have a couple of more functions than the 312s and i use them with the titanium Cshell. Just my thoughts on the rechargeables over the 312s.
Is your hearing loss quite mild?
My friend tried P90 RT but with a flat 85 dB loss, she found the charge didn’t last all day and that’s without any streaming.
The less of a hearing loss, you have, the less battery power, it’ll use.
No, My hearing loss is moderately severe, I don’t have my audio graph, I did have it but it was handed in to my doctor.
As i said, I can easily get more than 2 days out of mine.
They may just need to be remade with an open jaw or moving jaw impression if you are someone who gets a lot of movement in your ear canals.
The huge majority of may patients get a full day out of the battery even with considerable streaming.
Could it be that your friend is not SEATING the aids firmly enough in the charger? I find my new Life aids lasting 16 hrs, no prob. I stream about 2-3 hours a day of music or movies.
I would try that route in a heartbeat. Dang, I should’ve moved my jaw a bit, but you know how we all AGONIZE during impressions: “SHOULD I?” “Maybe I SHOULDN’T!” So I sat nice and still.
My friend doesn’t have the Life version.
The other person I responded too also didn’t mention Life so assumed they weren’t talking about the Life version.
I used to have to push in my bass double domes 100 times a day too. Then I went to the next size up on the domes. They hurt for a few days but my audi said (or maybe I read it here on the forum) that the ear canals eventually would adapt to the tighter fit, a bit like developing callouses on fingers. That’s what happened and after maybe two weeks my ear canals stopped hurting and I never have to push my domes in. So I’d say don’t give up on your snugger fit.
BUT…I seem to have developed a different problem that might be related to the tighter fit. I constantly have to change my wax guards. That’s a subject for a different thread, which I am about to start.
I’ll see how the new, remolded silicone tips fit when I return to my audi this week (if they’re ready!). I get how an ear canal can adapt over time to a new shape/size of tip, but it’s kind of like a set of new retainers: it’s going to HURT, and if the original impression was not close enough to one’s actual ear canal shape/size, that adaptation would take SO many days that the ear canal can actually get open sores - kiss of death for someone like me who can’t even go 24 hours w/no aids in till my ear canals heal.
My only fear is that when I pick up the new tips, they’ll be just a SQUEAKER too small - just a hair! But that will result in permanent feedback leakage, given the power needs I have.
At least my perfect fallback is the old-fashioned silicone power double domes SIZE L, which I’ve worn for years now. They seem to be a good balance amongst comfort, no feedback, and not having to push them in MORE than 100 times a day, LOL!
I have to admit, the custom molded silicone tips STAYED PUT. They did not BUDGE. I had to work them in a bit first thing in the morning, but then OW! OW! OW! OW! OW! all day long till I gently pulled them out and collapsed on the floor from the daylong assault on my ear canals. We’ll see when the new tips come in! Miracles can happen…
Does anyone know if the P90-RL uses the same receivers as the M90 and P90 HAs? I understand that the Life has a pinless design and that you “snap in” the receiver. I ask because if they are special receivers made for Life HAs where would a DIYer buy them?
Tells you further up in the post.
In this video phonak says the receiver are compatible with the current receicer portfolio.
So yes, they are the same receivers
By “current” are they only referring to the “Slim” “Fit” and “Life” range? The tip of the receiver looks different when I zoom in on it in that video. As if there is more of a “plug” design on the male part of the receiver.