So I loved my OPN S1 hearing aids. I have been wearing the More 1’s and I just can’t get use to them even with adjustments I have a hard time hearing low frequencies in noisey places and low spoken men with the More 1. It’s like they don’t suppress enough for me to hear speech well or something. I didn’t have this issue with my OPN S 1. I went back for adjustments and my provider told me I should try the Phonak Naida P-PR BTE. I said okay, so I am waiting for those to come in. With my loss do you all think I can wear these, or are they too much for my loss?
You only have a moderate loss but as they are the rechargeables Naidas, the fitting range should be okay.
She mentioned that these could last me awhile also in case my loss gets worse over the years. Do you know this to be true. I have take care of my hearing aids I would like something that would last me at least 5 to 7 years if not longer.
Simple Google search comes up with your answer.
Looks like you’ll only have roughly 10 dB extra room in the low frequencies.
Are you ok with switching to BTE aids? Your previous aids are RIC.(Oticon RITE)
This attachment is from this forum, searched Naida Paradise.
Thank you! That seems to be where I keep losing my hearing due to menieres, until it burns it out the ENT says. I hope it burns out soon.
I am okay with switching if it provides me being able to hear really well. I have to lip read my husband it is really soft spoken, and I have a hard time hearing him and lots of men, and this mask make it worse.
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I wore BTE aids most of the time, only RIC once. Pending on your ear canal size you could wear either.
I haven’t looked at Paradise but Belong and Venture Naida aids could be fit with either standard 13 tubes or Power slimtubes. Might be worth asking about. I liked the Power slimtubes, more discreet.
I took a look at the Target software.
With your hearing loss the slimtubes would work well. Might be worth trying.
Good luck.
Thanks! I will try them.
I’m not very experienced with the Phonak brand as I’ve only worn Oticon but maybe the Audeo Paradise would give you better room in the lows for future loss?
I would like to hear your comparison of the OPN S and the Naida Paradise. I have a severe to profound loss and will be considering/trialing the Naida Paradise and the Oticon Xceed. I have preferred Oticon in the past as the Phonak I trialed had a more metallic sound.
But the Xceed is two years old and the Paradise is only five months old. I think the Xceed has OPN S technology.
Please post your experience. Thanks!
With your hearing loss the Phonak Naida aids just might be the better choice with their frequency lowering technology, Sound Recover 2.
But, Oticon makes fine aids too.
To the OP (@deafgirl1609), is there a reason why you’re trying to switch from your OPN S1s to something else if you love them like you said? Why mess with something that’s working out well for you?
Many people on this forum who used to wear OPN or OPN S tried out the More, and while they might or might not have found a wow factor in the More, nobody so far has reported that they found the More performing worse than their OPN or OPN S. You’re the first report as such. It makes me wonder if your provider is doing something wrong on the More 1 in setting it up for you to give you the equivalent settings as in your OPN S1. I wonder why they were so quick to switch you to another brand instead of trying to work out the issue on the More 1 with you first.
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I’m going going to echo exactly what @Volusiano has just posted.
I wouldn’t change a word.
Wondering if you changed domes or ear mold. Sounds like it could be a difference in vent size? My 2 cents…
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I honestly can’t understand there being a significant degradation in performance when switching to More devices - for a current Oticon HA user.
The main difference between Opn/OpnS and More1/2/3 is the Deep Neural Network [DNN], which is essentially a library of 12,000,000 hard-wired sound samples, each labeled as speech/speech-related, as pure noise, or as “neither speech nor noise”. All three technology levels of More have DNN.
The Polaris platform is powerful enough to be able to filter all incoming sounds through the DNN in real time.
Pure noise (especially narrow-band machine noise) is attenuated - but not as severely as in beam forming devices.
Speech/speech-related sounds are clarified by means of non-linear compression and Oticon’s proprietary versions of frequency lowering and lightning-fast noise suppression (which is actually applied between spoken words, in real time).
Sounds that are neither speech nor noise are allowed to remain in the soundscape, in order to provide context for the total ‘sounds picture’ delivered by the HAs to the brain.
The overall effect of Oticon’s approach to sound processing is to maximize the difference in perceived loudness between speech and noise, thereby enhancing the brain’s ability to focus on and correctly decode the sounds of speech and separate them from noise.
There’s nothing in this DNN (versus algorithmic) treatment of incoming sounds that should diminish the performance of the More devices, as compared to Opn/OpnS, in my layperson’s opinion. That’s why I concur with @Volusiano.
[Disclosure: I’m a satisfied More1/More3 user, and a rabid Oticonian.]
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V- First, I’ve found your posts very helpful. But I don’t agree with this one. I’ve seen several posts that complain about the More’s supposed over-enhancement of lower frequency/bass sounds.
They could all be poorly programmed but I think the posts provide some context.
@Lalo: I must have missed those posts about the low frequency boost. Could you please help me out with a link to one or two of them, please?
[I’ve read stuff here on frequency lowering - which is something entirely different, as you must be aware.]
I think it’s a good idea to trial a few different brands, especially before making a final decision, Phonak Paradise vs Oticon More would be a good comparison, two totally different ways of processing sounds, so you’ll definitely notice a difference.
Have you tried Signia, ReSound?
No harm in trying these as well.
I think you should try to get the More programmed by another clinic to be absolutely 100% sure the More is not for you.
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