Oticon Data Logging

Below are the screen shots from Genie 2 for my OPN:

There doesn’t seem to be usage data for the TV Adapter and Phone streaming mode. It’d be nice to have that data as well.



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Interesting. Great screenshots!

Mine are NHS issued so no chance of looking myself I’d say.

I wonder if the ‘locked’ NHS Oticon Synergy Spirit mini BTEs can be read by the software but just not modified. For example, if I purchased the OPN online, would it be possible to copy the settings from one to the other.

Might have to ask the audiologist at the hospital whether they’d consider setting up a second set of HAs that I’d purchased myself. Hmmm.

I agree it would be nice to see.
That brings up a question I am always turning down the TV connect volume in the ON app or from the IOS control panel, is there a way to preset that setting?

I’m not sure but, try clicking on the Accessories use button.

Ah, yes! Thank you! I missed that (because I never bother looking at these stats until now). Here are some more screen shots:




Great question. I had the same issue until I went into Genie 2.0 and turned down my TV Adapter volume all the way to the left as seen in the screen shot below.

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Where did you get the hardware needed to connect to your computer so you can do it yourself. I am not really interested in making changes just looking at the data logs

I bought the hardware a while ago from buyhear.com before they became defunct and went out of business. I believe they sourced it from China. It’s the mini Pro.

If you go to the DIY section, you’ll see references to where you can buy them from.

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Regarding the “hearing fitness” function… hope they do some fixes/upgrades soon… pretty much useless now - tracks how long you’re wearing your HAs - when it wants to… usually logs me out every 2 weeks… and some days it shows me wearing the HAs all day (24 hrs…) for example, today, it shows me wearing them for 11hrs51min so far , and it’s 11:50am …and I did NOT put them in at 12:01 this morning :wink:

oh, and as far as OPN app showing when HAs connect and disconnect … that’s pretty useless - at least for me… it has NEVER worked well, and constantly just keeps showing HAs “connecting” and “disconnecting” all day …

I use an iPhone so I never bother using the ON app. The iPhone MFi controls are a lot more reliable than the ON app. You get to control switching programs and volume just the same as the ON app. It’s always connected by default to the OPNs, so you don’t need to bother with another app like the ON app to connect and disconnect.

I actually prefer to change programs and volume via the hard buttons on the OPN. But my second choice would be on the iPhone MFI interface. I wouldn’t bother with the ON app unless I’m on Android and I need to control program and volume changes via a phone.

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My hearing aids don’t have a program change button so I have to use the iPhone control or ON app on my iPhone or watch

I’ve got an iphone as well (actually switched from Android when I got HAs a couple years ago - primarily for the direct streaming capability) … I agree iphone controls are handy … I just think Oticon could do a better job with their app(s) … considering how $$$ the HAs are …

I agree that the app is not must more than useless

I can’t say this for sure, but my gut feeling is that using the ON app will drain your OPN faster than using the iPhone MFI interface. Why do I say this? It’s because every time you open up the ON app, it attempts to make a connection to your OPN. That requires the OPN to communicate and respond back to establish connection. Meanwhile, the MFI interface is already readily connected to the iPhone all the times for direct streaming.

So the ON app is like a pesky side app that keeps bothering the OPN, requiring its extra attention (and battery power) to respond to, all the while when it’s already in communication with the MFI interface by default. So using the ON app is basically forcing the OPN to communicate to another extra interface, when just working through the MFI interface alone should already fully suffice.

Now if you use Android, there’s no MFI interface. So the ON app interface is necessary. But for iPhone users, the ON app is redundant if you only use it for program and volume change.

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Interesting… Think I"ll try … how do I shut it down though? Doesn’t it automatically connect to the HAs when you put them on/have them paired with phone?? Do I have to uninstall the app? Wow, this forum told me I had to “wait” one hour to post this… said I had “reached maximum number of replies a new user can make on their first day…” .too chatty I guess …:slight_smile: will this happen every day???

You simply close the ON app to shut it down. You can delete/uninstall it if you want, but it’s not necessary. Just close the app and it’ll break connection to the OPN and get closed off. On the iPhone, just double tap on the Home screen to see all the apps being opened, then slide up on the ON app to close it.

I don’t know what all the rules for being a new forum members, but I guess once you’ve posted enough posts or waited long enough or whatever the requirements are, the restriction will be removed. It won’t be like that everyday.

This is an old thread but since I’m wondering about the Philips’ data logging function I thought I’d just tag on here and ask what’s changed since @Volusiano posted screenshots. I assume most hearing aids with data logging are similar.

I don’t think monitoring how long I wear the aids every day is very useful to me and feels kind of big brotherish. I also know which programs I use most and whether I turn the volume up or down. Are there any more sophisticated data collected yet?

For example, I saw in one if the posts something about being in a soft, moderate or loud environment. Even that’s fairly crude in terms of providing us useful info, but how would the aids even categorize snd collect that?

Can we see anything about the range of frequencies we experience and at what dB levels at a particular time on a particular day for example? Or in a particular environment? Or periods when certain frequencies spiked (potentially associated with when we dropped the volume)?

It would be nice if we could use these data to understand our own hearing better. And to help make suggestions to the fitter.

Data Logging is not designed to provide information to the person wearing the hearing aids. It provides information to your audiologist. For example; if you complain that your hearing aids are too loud (a common complaint for many when they first start wearing hearing aids) it makes a difference how long you wear the hearing aids each day.

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The kind of info that you’re looking for (volume level based, or frequency based, environment based, etc OF THE SIGNAL instead of of the user inputs) would require sensor-based detections on the sound signal, which is not trivial and would have to be designed into the hearing aid, which would be adding cost and most likely real estate as well on the chip in order to detect for data collection. So it does not justify the benefit (if even much at all to users or HCPs or the company) compared to the cost of doing it which would far outweigh the benefit.

The existing data logging is software based that would be just recording the already available user-based inputs that the system would have to respond to anyway, without needing additional sensors to detect, and can be readily collected much more easily at no additional cost. So it’s easier to justify collecting and making that kind of data available rather than with the other kinds of data that you’re looking for. But like you said, since YOU are the one who provided those data, you already have a rough idea of how much they are, so they’re redundant data that you already know in your head. So like @pvc said, the current kind of data collection is more for the HCP and for Oticon than for you anyway because they don’t know your inputs like you do.

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