New phonak Naida V90 UP


rain and snow here for the next week. This is a very crummy cell phone. I have a high-end film camera but I’m not going to expose a whole roll of film just for one photo


My ear mould tube is always facing my ear drum. I think it would be pretty hard not to face the ear mould tube to the ear drum.

Also there is no such thing as hard silicone. Silicone has different shore ratings so some are softer then others.


From a tutorial @ audiology online:


Many professionals are likely familiar with three standard earmold materials: acrylic or lucite, vinyl, and silicon (Figure 12). Acrylic might be considered the old standby. This hard material has been around for a long time, and while a large majority of patients with more significant degrees of hearing loss were moving to softer materials for a while, more people are actually going back to acrylic these days. One main reason for this is the advent of better digital hearing instrument signal processing technology and feedback managers. Acrylic, generally speaking, remains the most durable earmold material. It does not shrink, break down over time, or harden with time (since it is already hard). Additionally, it is the easiest of the three materials to modify or re-tube and glue. From a patient standpoint, it is easy to insert and remove, and it comes in every earmold style and color available. Acrylic material is very easy to clean with most mild cleaning agents, and is resilient no matter how many times the surface has been cleaned.

Acrylic is best suited for patients with a softer ear texture. When considering ease of insertion, if the ear is very soft and the skin has lost some elasticity, acrylic material is the easiest for that person to maneuver. The only exception is the soft, delicate ears of infants and children. It would only be in a rare case that an acrylic or hard mold would ever be recommended for a child. The greatest disadvantage of a hard earmold for a child is the potential for injury. A 12 year old who is very active in sports from baseball to soccer would have a potential risk that a ball or other player would collide with his ear, and that hard earmold would injure the delicate ear structure. Generally, soft molds are more comfortable to children with growing ears, as well. There is no magic age where a child becomes able to wear an acrylic mold;however, infants and children learning to walk and navigate should never be fitted with a hard earmold.

A general disadvantage of acrylic material is mainly that it is not flexible. Although it is generally the easiest material to insert, since the mold will not compress it can be difficult to insert into very narrow canals. A flex-canal material can address that problem to some degree, however. Secondly, acrylic earmolds are more prone to acoustic leakage when the ear canal changes shape because they don’t move with the jaw. If someone with a significant loss has excessive jaw movement or the earmold does not stay tight during chewing, that user may experience feedback issues despite a good feedback manager in the hearing instrument.


Vinyl, also known as polyvinyl chloride (PVC), is a material that falls in between acrylic/lucite, which is the hardest earmold material, and the softest materials at ear labs. Vinyl is a softer material for soft or flaccid ears and works well for older individuals or children. It inserts fairly easily, although some argue not as easily as acrylic, and has the advantage of providing a better acoustic seal for high-gain instruments. It is easily tubed, but does require a glue to hold it in place. Some may argue that vinyl is not easily modified;however, a medium-coarse grinding stone can be used to trim and smooth edges quite nicely in the convenience of your office. The disadvantages of vinyl are that it does shrink, harden, and discolor over time. Very old vinyl earmolds that have hardened, may in fact, look and sound like an acrylic earmold as you tap it on your desk. Vinyl earmolds tend to turn a yellowish-brown with time due to individual body chemistry. Sunlight also speeds discoloration. Because of these inherent property problems, vinyl earmolds need to be replaced more often than acrylic or silicon. Most earmold labs cannot make vinyl earmolds in all of the bright multicolors or glitters, either.

Furthermore, vinyl earmolds are not generally recommended for use with patients who have allergy concerns. Many earmold labs offer a boil and saline option, which means the earmold is literally boiled, making the earmold a little more user friendly with people who may report allergies. Now, for the person seeing an allergist for airborne allergies, food allergies, and the like, they might be able to use a boiled vinyl earmold, but usually they require something more neutral such as silicon or polyethylene.


Polyethylene is a semi-hard waxy material, with an appearance much like candle wax. The color resembles an older milky-colored ear hook on a hearing aid. This is the earmold material of last resort for allergic cases. Generally, we encourage you to try everything else before using polyethylene because it is not cosmetically appealing, and it is difficult to modify. It is a very safe mold for extreme allergies, but there are also no color options, and style options are somewhat limited. Keeping a tube in place has also proven to be very difficult with this material, so you may have frequent tubing problems or remakes back to the lab. But, all things considered, if you have a patient who is absolutely unable to wear anything else, consider the polyethylene earmold.


Silicone has many advantages. It is very flexible and comfortable, tight fitting for high-gain instruments, and durable, especially when compared to acrylic. Very little change in shape or size occurs over time and it is an ideal material for allergy cases (when ordered in a neutral color or clear with no glazing or high-shine). The disadvantages of silicone include difficulty of insertion, especially when it is brand new. Because it is quite flexible, it almost has a rubbery feel when pressed to the skin and can grab the skin upon insertion. One way to address this is by ordering a matte finish instead of a glazed finish, which will slide into the ear much easier. A second way to address this is by applying a water-based lubricant to the canal portion of the earmold before insertion. Silicone is not appropriate for patients who have very soft or flaccid ears because it grabs the loose skin and pushes back, making it difficult to get the earmold in with a good fit.

While silicone is very soft and flexible, these characteristics make it difficult to modify and glue tubing. Making in-office fit changes to this earmold is more difficult than to earmolds made of acrylic or vinyl material. It takes a grinding motor with high RPM speeds (20,000 RPM or higher), which many offices do not have, to modify silicone earmolds. It is also difficult to glue tubing into the sound bore of a silicone earmold. On the original make of the earmold, the tubing is actually not glued. Most earmold laboratories use a plastic or metal/brass retention device of some sort on the tube. This type of tubing is referred to as a TRS (tubing retention system) tube or tube lock (Figure 13). There is also friction tubing, in which the tubing is tight in the sound bore where tugging does not release the tubing easily.


Ingenious. Thanks. It looks like it is more discrete-looking once it is in than I had imagined, too. Infection risk would be higher. Do you re-make them fairly regularly?

The soft molds have been around for ages, but no they don’t expand. However, if they are well-fit there shouldn’t be any gaps. If the initial impression is deep enough, it becomes obvious where the ear drum is. And they should come with a remake warranty so that they can be fixed if they aren’t perfect right off the bat. Are you sure it was an audiologist that you were seeing?

Mostly in this moment I am feeling warm about how much you love your wife, to do this for her.


Yes, it was an audiologist! Rochester New York area, The Hearing Center. She did remake it two times for free but it wasn’t any better. I don’t know why she didn’t mention the soft mold. Maybe it really was a soft mold. It was silicone,flexible, not like hard plastic. But still, if it doesn’t expand, the thing is, every time my wife moves, changes her head position, etc. the size of the ear opening changes and she has feedback. But not with my mold. This is probably version 4.0.

May be a different audiologist could have done better.

I put a piece of cream-colored cloth over the end to cover it somewhat, to make it more discreet. But my wife doesn’t really mind because it’s easier for her if people know she has hearing loss.

I only remake them when necessary, which could be months, or longer. I might have to add a new ring onto this one though as the inner core — the green one — gets more compressed. I do everything I can to protect the tube from degrading: using an ear syringe every month I clean it out with warm soapy water, then when it’s dry I spray silicone spray through it. The outer part of the tube that is exposed my wife coats with Vaseline daily to protect it so it doesn’t become hard.

Not sure what you mean by infection risk would be higher. Because it seals so well? My wife only wears it about 10 hours a day, taking it out in the afternoon for a nap.

Well, my wife and I are mutually affectionate — but we do have to communicate! So I do it as much for me as for her.


well, yes, but for my wife, whose hearing loss is so profound, even a slightly off angle diminishes her hearing and it’s not as sharp. Then if she pushes on the mold on one side it may become sharper. But if I make it just right she does need to do that. I’m sure the mold was silicone. It was somewhat flexible, but not like an earplug.


But if you get a ear mold with an extra long ear canal length, it’ll be pointing to the ear drum, simple!! My ear molds are so long that they basically touch the ear drum!! I find I get better sound that way!!


I was never told that was an option. I keep trying to get the tube to go in farther. Thanks, I may look into that at some point but I think she’d get more feedback with your type of mold. Your loss is about 10 DB less than hers. And maybe the Naida B has better feedback control.


They actually recommed a longer ear canal length to REDUCE feedback!!


wonder why my audiologist said nothing about that. . . .


They also say that a longer ear canal length allows you to hear more as it’s closer to the ear drum. The purple ear mold is my new set compared to my old clear ear molds.


thanks. That’s what I’ve been trying to get to closer. We’ll look into that.


Also I get the ear mold lab to double dip them so the ear molds are a tighter fit.


how long ago did they first offer you the longer ones? My wife had ones like the clear one on the left since she first had hearing aids 40 years ago. She last saw the audiologist about three years ago. When I try to make her a longer one she says it hurts.


I just realized a person only gets sent an email if you reply directly to them, so I’m not certain you saw my reply above, and if you’ve been following the conversation. If not, read my reply now.

Not sure what you meant by infection risk. Because my ear mold seals so well?

Did you see the photo of zebras mold? Do you make them that long? If so, I understand why you said it was dangerous. I haven’t been able to go in that far because my wife says it hurts when I tried to. Do you know what zebras meant when he said he got them double dipped? The last ones my wife had made were short like his clear one — we were never told there was an option for the longer. May look into that.


When they make molds, they dip them in a solution (not sure what the solution is called) to coat them to make them smooth. Double dipping or even triple dipping means they get another coat of the solution which makes them tighter.

I haven’t really explained it very well so someone else might come and explain it better.


Higher infection risk because of the materials. It looks like you are using parts of plugs that are meant as disposables? But the ear canal is pretty robust.

Yes we can make them that long, yes I know what double dipping is, and no you yourself should not go in that deep given a lack of tools and training.

Zebras’ purple sparkle molds are fabulous. I wish more people would go for the glitter.


I’m renewing this old post because I recently had a annual hearing from my VA audi. I was also having a couple of issues with my aids. One of the issues was my aids increasing in volume in the church sanctuary with organ music and no one on the forum address. So I just have lived with the issue by lowering the volume on the aids. When asked the audi about the issue she said she could make any changes in the automatic programming and to ask the forum if there was a way to change the auto programming. She did conduct a REM test and wanted to change the gains to the results of the REM. I told it was too loud for me. So she left the settings as they were before the test. She did add three manual programs and one was speech in noise which significantly change my hearing in the sanctuary with organ music and as a result heard the speaker a lot better. I did as an experiment turn the volume up the channels too. Another thing she said was that my auto programs was only using two programs which I did not understand since with these Phonaks have seven programs in the auto programming. Another thing to make note of is the after resetting the settings in Jan 18 I thought my hearing was really good so did not really touch any setting since that time. Speech on the phone was exceptional except with the right ear. Cannot really understand speech on the phone with the right ear. The manual programs the audi added was speech in noise and speech in wind plus the t-coil program. The speech in noise seems to address the biggest issue with my aids. Also want to mention that this thread really got off topic after my last post Apr 18. I guess my biggest ??? right now is how come the phonak automatic programming was only using two programs because I"m in a lot of different environments. I really like the Naida V90s they are so much better than the Naida Q50 I had before and really appreciate this forum too.