I’m a current user of Phonak Paradise P90 power aids (year 2000) and hoping to replace them in next 12 months. We can all debate how long aids function at a high level but I think when you reach 5 to 7 years of usage it’s wise to start looking for a replacement. I believe the Naida L-Up came out in late 2022 or 2023 so I’m wonder if Phonak might be close to coming out with a new power aid late this year or more likely next year.
Current Paradise adds (out of warranty) are working fine, but I’m hoping some future power aid might improve my overall hearing level. I’m also at the point in time when I like to have two sets of working aids - in case one set fails. I’m not an expert on HA’s but I feel the Paradise P90 power aid and current Naida L-Up are very similar. As in we are comparing apples to apples. So if I do buy current Naida L-Up I don’t expect to see much “hearing level improvement” over my Paradise aids.
Phonak seems to be upgrading their power aids now every two to three years. So anyone think in 2026 the company will be coming up with a new power aid replacement for the Naida L-Up? Or could the wait be longer. Timing is everything.
I was going through a similar dilemma recently, wait for a new Oticon hearing aid or go with the Oticon Intent? Ultimately I decided to go with the Intent because of a 50% sale, because a new hearing aid takes a while to get sales and they are … expensive when they are released.
It would be helpful if you posted your audiogram. If the P90 are working fine, do you really need the Naida? What receivers are you using with the P90s?
I have Audeo P90-13T & Naida L90 SP. I prefer the Naida L90 by some distance. The difference is very subtle, but clarity is better. I think my policy with hearing aids is now similar to what I do with Cellphones. I just wait until the next generation comes up for a decent price.
Do you think it’s more “Paradise vs. Lumity difference” or “Audeo vs. Naida difference”?
Last time, I wondered whether Naida PR (supposedly Infinio) would be better than Audeo with a P receiver due to the increased chance of achieving REM-based targets.
If you see my audiogram, theoretically it fits the M receiver fitting range, but it does not in practice, probably because of my relatively larger-than-average ear canal.
I agree with @PeterH the overall clarity is much better, noticeably better… I would guesstimate November this year for a new Phonak Power/ Naida Sphere this year, if past iterations are anything to go by? As far as Oticon power aids go, they do appear to have given up the ghost, and abandoned this sector, 2019 was their last power aid… The Xceed, cheers Kev
No need for audiogram since I’m pretty much off the chart or let’s say at the very bottom section. At the time I bought the Phonak Naída Paradise P90 it was the most powerful aid on market, along with Oticon Xceed power aid. Now we have the Naida L-Up, My audi has told me there is very little difference between the Naida Paradise P90 versus the Naida L-Up. But of course if I bought 2025 aids they would be new versus my 5 year old aids.
A new Phonak Power/Naida Sphere would be interesting but I doubt it would come with a 675 battery and might not even have a t-coil. Power aids need big batteries and rechargeable is alway risky, especially with the Sphere set in “noise cancelling mode” since it drains the rechargeable battery faster. Though I would be willing to replace a Phonak Power Naida Sphere (with 675 battery) say every five days versus the ten plus I get right now.
There is little probability for 675 battery (except one manufacturer would be brave enough to make HA with 2x 675s in one housing).
675 has 1.4-1.5 V, but Li-ion has ~4 V, so it offers much more possibilities for improve.
Not necessarily; if you dig deeper into Infinio Sphere, you’ll read that its battery life is outstanding, and there aren’t many noisy situations that would activate AI mode. Almost no one complains about dead batteries with Spheres.
If you have very low WRS scores with your profound hearing loss, maybe it’s worth to consider CI evaluation
Understand. My question was based on your statement that you said the P90s were working fine. I did not pick up on the fact that you were referring to the Naida P90s rather than the P90s. If you are happy with the Naida P90s I would wait a few months to see if a Infinio Naida is released.
If and when I do buy my next HA’s I don’t see Infinio Sphere on the radar. It’s not currently designed for users with a severe to profound hearing loss. I like the comfort of having instant long term aid power with a 675 battery. Rechargeable’s are fine for those who want to recharge ever 16 to 22 hours or what ever length to time you get. It you kick in the “noise cancellation feature on the Infinio Sphere battery life is not outstanding. It’s average at best. Now if you don’t use back ground noise reduction” feature, yea the aids do get longer. battery life//usage time. I don’t think you’ll find many HA users with a serious hearing loss leaning towards rechargeable batteries. And there is the “fact” as the rechargeable battery wears down towards the end of usage - your hearing aid will not work as well as when the battery was fully charged.
CI is an option for many in my hearing range, but alas the majority of CI candidates choose not to get one for multiple reasons. If Phonak continues its past new aid roll out schedule lhere might be new power aids coming in November this year.
Well happy my Naida P90’s are working but after five years I’d like to trail something new - that’s hopefully a step up. From what I’m gathering here the Naida L-UP is also a good hearing aid (with slightly more bells and whistles) but not necessarily a step up from my 2000 Paradise. So I guess I’ll roll the dice and see what comes out over next 12 months, versus buying new aids now.
Somewhat sad that we only have Phonak, Oticon and maybe ReSound as the last of the power HA manufactures. While everyone else seems to be competing with OTC.
Indeed, I have written my answer keeping in mind potential Naida Infinio Sphere in the near future, not Audeo.
I get 2-3 days (15hrs/d) - more tend to 3, when I don’t have to use AI program (traditional directionality and noise cancellation is also quite good).
AI isn’t used that much in real life; there are many heavy users here (like @JordanK) who do not complain, despite their type of job.
You can send hearing aids to the manufacturer near the end of the 3-year warranty to get new batteries if necessary. For me, wearing the battery means decreasing use from 2–3 to 1.5 days on one charge—still very impressive.
I don’t want to push rechargeables, I just want to make sure you have accurate information, not stereotypes.
It very much could be, as my Audeo Paradise have M receivers. I do actually prefer BTE. I can compare Lumity SP with Marvel SP. Again Lumity seems a fair bit better for me, with subtle improvements. I can manage with the Marvels though
No REM, no-one around here does it. In both cases below, I’ve run Phonak’s Feedback and Real Ear test and done Audiogram direct. I’ve enabled overtuning above estimated feedback.
