BTE and hair sounds

lol, mine is thinning and before lock down was keeping it at number 2/3, around ears always 2 and recently went 1 around ears, as always done myself and hardly going out so not bothered if looks bad lol.
Thanks for the pic, no I don’t wear glasses. It maybe wire length or just that i can hear the noises to much.
With ITE ones the right one always played up as sure mould wasn’t right, this was another reason i wanted to try BTE with domes etc.

I have the same problem. IMOA It depends on where the mike is on your HA. I wear Phonak HP aids and the mike is on the top of the aid were my hair will rub on the mike. It looks like the new Phonak has the mike off to the side were it would be harder for the hair to rub on the mike. I have worn HA for 61 years and this is the first pair that I have had this problem with…The older HA’s used to have a hood that would cover the mike to direct the sound and protect the mike. I wish they were still like that.

Recommendation to test - ask your fitter to lower ‘low sounds’ even more. In phonak, that’s called 35 something, in others it might be ‘expansion’. But idea is the same - reduce gain to those very soft sounds.
I went all nuclear and reduced both lows and highs, and it’s fine now.
With my good ear I started wearing HA for the simplicity of streaming, and I had to reduce it A LOT unless I want to hear my breathing (lows) or hearing silence in the apartment (highs). Now it’s all fine, and I still get all other sounds.

What I mean, I don’t need superear, and by default the gain there was non trivial, so I guess that’s something manufacturers often do, so it could be worth looking at it.

I had this happen initially, the audiologist fixed it at the first adjustment, about 3 weeks later.

You might want to ask if you can increase your expansion on the hearing aids. It has been known to reduce unwanted noise like what you described. It is in the fitting program that your fitter uses. Just ask the fitter to increase it. I hope this helps you out. Have a great evening.

Thanks, all think I need to get to another audiologist, as mine is just over whelmed by all the different software for all brands, I think he can get any brand. I am sure there are so many things I could do to have them better but would need the noahlink and software to play with myself to.
I am going to go elsewhere or may even ask if I can pay for some time to have a play with software my self or something.

My only suggestion is make sure they use Real Ear Measurements. That way the audiologists is verifying the hearing aids meat its goals needed to make you hear better. Good luck and I understand the impotence of finding a good audiologists that is knowledgeable and has time to meet with you. Have a great day and it has been nice talking to you.

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It looks like your audi didn’t learn the l principles but exact steps, and with 10+ different looking sws that definitely can be overwhelming.

From things I know now after researching for my marvels, I’d dare to modify just about any sw, because principles ARE the same eg noise cancelling, feedback control, it is just a matter of learning how each manufacturer calls that, but it’s also not completely crazy naming, eg no one calls their feedback control’ wild cucumber’ :joy:

But yes, I’d recommend either finding a person who knows principles and doesn’t have a problem with different naming, or get a sw and check the names for yourself. Even just figuring out names could help communicate with audi, but the question arises - for what then you’re paying them high money if you’re doing their job.

On the other hand, let’s assume you don’t have anymore time or patience to teach someone their job, then yes, route of DIY for tweaking things after you understand how they work is definitely less frustrating and more rewarding route :slight_smile:

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I don’t know how he can be overwhelmed. That’s why God invented computers

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I thought that you were going to joke the opposite: that God invented computers so that we could find a way to be overwhelmed and experience that technological sensation.

Relative to computers and HA’s a very interesting character and very talented guy who has been a prolific book author in the past and worked for Microsoft on Silverlight, Jesse Liberty, whose books I’ve learned C++ and C# from, declared at least a decade or two ago that there was a time as either a computer professional or aficionado that one could know everything (almost) about personal computers and programming. He declared wistfully that those days were over. No single person could master all that one needed to know in a high technology environment (I guess it’s been true for humanity in general since Renaissance Persons became an endangered species).

So maybe HA’s are moving in that direction, too (or have been there already). No single HCP provider or user can really get a good handle on everything that’s out there in the HA world and all its nuances (except maybe Dr. Cliff!). :slightly_smiling_face:

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Exactly he was like its impossible to be able to learn all for each brand sort thing, and was even saying in future going to offer less smart/fancy hearing aids as had enough. His other side of business thats very busy is ear wax suction etc.
I just feel overall probably not getting the best out of all the features and sound processing on offer, and if I could have time with software have a play to. Like many things not can’t really break it would either reset over revert to previous saved profiles.
In future do hope we eventually all have option to connect to a PC via bluetooth and change software ourselves etc. Buying hearing aids on internet or over counter will be the norm expect.

I get it a little bit on occasion now. Almost not worth mentioning…

Was worse at first but the audiologist made some adjustments to turn down just that frequency and it made no difference that I can tell in the aids performance, just took away 99%… no maybe 98.5% of the bad noise. I was planning to ask about that other 0.5% on my next visit… :slight_smile:

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Got my first pair of BTE’s ~12 years ago (on 3rd pair now), and have found the “hair sound” present in all of them. I’ve just gotten used to it and consider it a subtle reminder to visit the barber soon. :upside_down_face:

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I wear Widex Moments and just thought the hair sounds were part of living with hearing aids. I’ve actually become acclimated so that I rarely notice it and I have very long hair. In a pony tail I don’t much hear/notice it at all. But hair down is still noticeable. I didn’t realize my audi could adjust to reduce this. I got these in the middle of this C19 thing so haven’t even been able to see her until now. I think I’ll make an appt to get these adjusted properly. Thanks guys! :pray:t2:

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I find that hair sounds are far worse right after getting a haircut. The short hairs really like to rasp noisily against the microphones of my Naida BTE aids. So I am continually smoothing the hair back from the aids to try and prevent the noise.

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Oh goodness. It’s all the same. You just have to learn a bit of different jargon that different companies use to describe the same stuff. The software is getting more and more similar.

Using computers seems to me to be mostly about clicking buttons and looking for what you want. But some people are weirdly shy about clicking buttons.

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I tried the ReSound Quttro 7s for almost 3 weeks, and in my case if that was my first hearing aid, it would have been my last. Had the same problem with the hair and when I put on my reading glasses. Never knew paper or toilets we so loud. I had headaches for 2 weeks. I found them just way to loud. Went back to my Unitron Moxi Fits and things are much better. Going to try another Audi and other HAs, he just seamed to dismiss everything I told him, and my last Audi said I can only get the Unitrons even though he carrys many others and wouldn’t even let me try others. I tried 2 other Audis and one was good, there are a couple more to check out.

The willingness to click buttons is so true! Reminds me years ago when my daughter asked for help on something computer related. She soon commented: “You don’t know any more than I do–you’re just poking.” She was absolutely right and hasn’t asked for help since (and hasn’t needed it!)

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I think the unknown factor with HA’s and hair sounds, besides however individual HCP’s set up the HA’s is the hair itself, not to mention the exact length and the way in which your barber or hair dresser trims or shaves your hair specially around the ears. I’ve known people with silky soft very thin will-o’-the-wisp hair and other folks with hair like pig bristles. So I imagine that along with exactly where your HA’s rest above your ears given your wire or tube length and shape, where your microphone openings are, plus your hair length and type, one has an incredible YMMV situation. Every time we swallow, chew, walk, etc., we make a noise. We can learn to habituate to a lot. So, yes, if hair rubbing noise is really bad, you need to see your audiologist. Otherwise, I’d say just like the walking, chewing, swallowing, wife snoring(?), etc., noises in our life, ignore hair sounds and they will hopefully get factored out of your conscious mind. (but in ruminating over the noises that I’m able to sleep blissfully through, including mowers and weedwhackers run not too far from my bedroom window, I wonder if the hair sound issue varies in severity as to whether you’re a light sleeper or not?-I’m definitely a heavy sleeper or at least able to factor out most noises, including wife snoring loudly, and just doze away - and I don’t even notice hair sounds except when adjusting glasses).

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Hi Jim, thanks for reply. Really just to give an update on all this. Since I have been keeping my hair much shorter before it gets long enough to tickle the mics its much better, my hair is like not thick or thin really.
Does anyone know what the setting is called for Resound aids, when its to reduce sensitivity for hair etc? So I can ask my audi to adjust that as if go back now he will not know.

On another issue similar but my fault, early in the first lockdown, I had been working downstairs and long late hours due child care, one night left them on table charging lid up and our cat must of spotted the flashing green charging lights and had a chew on the right one! wire was chewed changed that, the body of aid has teeth dings etc and think some damage has occurred as now the body like picks up scratching/rubbing sounds a lot more than the left one ever does. So think need another trip back to audi to get it re-cased or re-shelled etc doh!