Xceed 1 Up Play or Xceed 3 or Oticon Opn 1

I argee @Raudrive that the Xceed1 is the best, with your hearing loss the OPN aids will not have enough power.

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Thank you very much! I really appreciate it. I heard some birds only with hearing aid, yes I have problem with high tones so i have problem with hearing S Sh ch And clear understanding of some words. Anyway I comunicate well since I use other signs like reading from mouth etc. You think Phonak would be better than Xceed 1?

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Thank you! What do you think about bernafon leox7?

sorry I do not know anything about that hearing aid.

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The Oticon aids are really good aids. Phonak are also good.
The reason I brought up Phonak is they have a really good frequency lowering technology at this time. They can lower the upper frequencies down lower than Oticon can at this time. But, if you are hearing “s, sh, d, consonants with the Oticon aids you are doing fine. It does take time to get used to new aids.

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Thank you very much for your response!
Actually in Serbia I do not have a good dealer for Phonak but I will try to check. I Know that this Oticon is new and I hope it will be reliable in noisy and social surroundings and challenging hearing situation because of open sound navigator. But this is not perfect for example today I spoke on phone and I hear person who is away from me and can not concentrate on the phone speech but I am still testing. And also this exceed 3 which is more basic and poor model to me seemed excellent even better than 1 but probably the reason is this that with this model I do not hear other many other sounds in surrounding so you can concentrate on speech. But following specifications xceed 1 should be better so I am giving one more chance to this model and I am wearing trial xceed 1 right now so I think I will choose this and I hope I will get to use to this model better by time.

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the Xceed 1 would be good for you!

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Your audiogram is similar to mine. Did you decide which hearing aid to go with - Oticon Xceed 1 or Xceed 3?

I preferred Xceed 2. Xceed 3 have not most of these nice features as Xceed 1 or 2

Can you describe some of these nice features that actually helped you hear better?

Also why go for Xceed 2 instead of Xceed 1? Does Xcerd 2 have most of the features that you need and there is no point in paying more for Xceed 1?

Open Sound Navigator, Open Sound Optimizer, Speech Guard LX. I preferred Xceed 2 because of half price of Xceed1 and because of high frequencies absent in my audiogram - those frequencies are most important for sound localization abilities. So full Open Sound Navigator in Xceed 1 probably won’t work for me.

What did you do about the excessive background noise? I am trailing Xceed 1 right now and on the way to the hotel the noise of car was a bit too much. Can it be adjusted?

Also how much did the Xceed 2 pair cost you?

No, Xceed and Opn(+S) have not noise reduction as old hearing aids. They provide all sounds “as is”, and reduce noise only when speech presents. I paid 1500$ for pair of 5-month old used Xceeds.

You might want another opinion about noise reduction.
@Volusiano and @Um_bongo understand Oticon aids very well.
Good luck

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Lostdeaf, if that’s the case, why don’t you set manual programming in mode 2 where speech is 80% and background noise is 20%? That way in noisy situations one can switch to mode 2.

Thanks Raudrive! @Volusiano and @Um_bongo, can you guys please give me better advice/suggestions. It would be much appreciated.

I don’t know much about the Xceed, but I assume that it’s basically the higher power version of the OPN S, and it has the OpenSound Navigator like the OPN S, is that right?

If so, @Lostdeaf is correct that most of the noise reduction in the OPN S is dedicated to more speech clarity, but it doesn’t reduce the noise level when there’s no speech. There is some SNR improvement when it tries to balance the soundscape, but it doesn’t block out the road noise altogether per se.

When I started wearing the OPN 1 and I’m on the road, if there’s no conversation going on or I’m listening to the music, then I don’t notice the road noise as much because I focus on the other sounds I want to hear more. From that perspective, it’s not so bad. But if I’m just driving alone and there’s no other sounds going on except the road noise, then the road noise becomes more prevalent. If it bothers me, I just turn down the volume a notch or two or three until it doesn’t bother me anymore

If the Xceed has the OpenSound Booster feature like the OPN S does, which blocks out more sounds on the sides and rear to let you focus on sounds from the front, then you can try it out to see if it helps cut down on road noise for you. You’ll still hear the road noise in front of you, though, there’s no escaping it. But at least the road noise in front may be 1/4 as loud only because you block out the other 3/4. But then that’s the same as reducing the overall volume to reduce the road noise down to 1/4…

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No need to pick between the Xceed or Oticon Opn 1. Phonak will be coming out with the Paradise Up shortly and that’s where you want to place your hard earned money. Heck Oticon Opn 1 been out forever and Xceed year and a half. In a month or two Phonak will come out with a Ultra Power aid to blow the Xceed and Oticon away.

If we’re talking about new releases, Oticon is coming out with the Oticon More early next year which is supposed to be the next generation Oticon line after the OPN S. It’s too new to really know how well it’ll work, and how soon after the initial release will it eventually offer a “power” version of it. Probably with a similar schedule compare to when they come out with the “power” version of the OPN. But if anything, it’s worth checking out the forum thread on its release announcement just so one is aware of all the options in terms of new model releases from HA mfgs.

For Accessories, Better App and more power before feedback, Quattro Enzo is also worth a shout.

Not sure if it’s just me, but the Sonova feedback manager dancing all over the output has never given me a lot of confidence that their usable gain was where it was claimed to be (certainly not where the REAR said it was).

Oticon have lots of experience with chunky high power aids too, but their Open strategy is a bit ‘marmite’ for some users; power users tend to be very definite about their preferences in this respect.