What to do with “High MPO” exceeds 132 dB. (ear simulator) via Phonak Target?

I feed my new audiogram on Phonak Target which was test by my audiologist last Friday. She said not to worry about that warning shows “High MPO” Current MPO exceeds 132 dB. (ear simulator). Should I worry about this or is there something I should fix that issue to avoid high MPO? Here is the photo of audiogram 2019 and 2018.

My left ear has a high MPO warning as well. I’ve been told not to worry about it by my audiologist.

You need all the gain you can get. Those warnings aren’t meant for somebody with a loss as profound as yours.

You should enter your UCL, too.
I also had this warning after my audiologist did his finetuning. After I entered my UCLs (max is 110dB@2kHz-4kHz) the warning disappeard but speech intelligibility did not change. This is because I don’t hear the sounds above 2kHz anyway. But this way I found out that I have troubles with very loud sounds at 3kHz. For example when a smoke detector starts yelling I felt very dizzy and did not know why (I didn’t hear the sound!). With the MPO set to at most UCL there is no longer any problem like this.
Not everybody suffer from this problem but you should keep an eye on this.

What is UCL and how do I find it? Can you give me instruction? Thanks. :+1:

UCL = “uncomfortable level”. In your screenshot it’s the 2nd button below “AC” in the center.
You should not do any experiments in target if you don’t know what you are doing. You should study a lot more how you can control the HA before doing any DIY.

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I see and thanks for information. I think you shouldn’t use judgement/assumption on me regarding to Phonak Target software. To answer your comment, I learned this from audiologists and studied it well since few years. I never have thought of UCL since I only focus on my audiogram tests from audiologists showing AC only. I do see my audiogram tests that my audiologists didn’t bother adding UCL on it so I am not sure why and I will ask them next time I visit. :smiley:

Hello again, I made small adjustment on my own audiogram slightly different than my audiologist’s test. Before there was 60 db on 500 and 105 dB on 2k. 60db on 500 was pretty weak for speech during noise environment for me and 105 dB on 2k was too sharp and annoy sound. I put 65 dB on 500 and 100 dB on 2k so now i can hear better than before. I am surprised that I can hear music clear and clean sound too. Thanks to you Dani for your feedback being helpful.

Try audiogram direct.

Randomly changing your audiogram is not the correct way to adjust the aids.

Hello MDB, thanks your information. I recently moved to my new Oticon Xceed 3. I did see same MPO warning in Genie 2 software. You are correct that those warnings aren’t meant for somebody with a loss as profound as mine. It means I have to accept the loudest sound and learn to adapt to it. Oticon Genie 2 is little bit different than Phonak Target. Phonak Target got 100% (experience) or 90% first time. Oticon is Adaptive 3, 2 or 1. My audiologist wants me to stay on 3 which is way strong. I did test on just two which is nice but easy to miss some conversation. I decided to stay on three and get through with new sound. Again, thanks for your feedback. :+1: