I have phonak paradise hearing aids with the receivers needed to use Roger mics. I use the Roger On In. Roger is made by Phonak and designed to be used with Phonak A friend who wears Oticon hearing aids would like to be able to use Roger microphones. I understand this can be done with the MyLink neckloop? Anyone with experience on using Roger with hearing aids other than Phonak?
I think youād need to attach a Roger x receiver to the neckloop.
WH
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Good point. Iāll have to research that. Iām hoping someone on the forum is using Roger with hearing aids other than Phonak and can tell us about it.
It is astounding that in this bluetooth age the hugely expensive Roger On system still requires an analogue hearing loop. Especially when some HA manufacturers no longer provide a Loop setting. (Iām a new forum member, so pleasecorrect me if Iām missing something)
Yeah, youāre missing something. Theyāre designed to be used with Phonak hearing aids that have built in receivers that work with Roger devices. If you want to use a Roger On system with a non Phonak aid you have to figure out a way to get a receiver in the system. A neckloop is often the best way to do that.
Thanks for the feedback. I take the point that the Roger On is Phonic specific, but Iāve yet to hear of a noise cancelling wireless alternative for non-Phonak HAās; either to work with Roger On or with another make of microphone - hence my question.
In audio technology noise cancellation is the norm, and with HAās bluetooth has rapidly become the norm. It seems logical that the 2 technologies should join together.
The issue is that in audio technology there is a ācleanā source and environmental noise is reduced. In hearing aids there is seldom a ācleanā source unless one is streaming. Most hearing aids have some sort of remote microphone (although I agree Roger is the bestāand most expensive)
The Roger neckloop is an option for hearing aids that have Telecoil. The neckloop has the Roger licenses and converts the Roger signal to a Telecoil signal.
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Have you used it with hearing aids that are not Phonak? Iām wondering how well it works for a friend with Oticon.
Your friend is better off getting a Oticon EduMic and a Roger X receiver for a clearer sound over the Phonak MyLink receiver.
EduMic will work with your friends hearing aids unless his hearing aids are quite old.
I prefer the EduMic and Roger X over the MyLink as telecoil is known for interference.
I used to wear Phonak but now wear Oticon.
I purchased the Phonak Neckloop when I trialed and intended to buy the Costco Jabra Pro 20 (which I subsequently returned). I did not notice any difference in Roger On or Roger Table Mic ll reception between the Neckloop with the Jabra and directly with my Lumity 90s. But, I am not very interested in sound āqualityā as I just want to understand the person or people I am talking to. I do not have any experience with Oticons.
Thank you for sharing your experience with me. The Edu-Mic is more expensive ($1000) than the MyLink (now Roger) neckloop receiver ($550), plus the needed purchase of the Roger X (which Iām having trouble finding the cost). Anyone know how much the Roger X generally costs? The use of the EduMic is a great back up idea in case the Oticon hearing aids donāt have a telecoil. Even with a telecoil, my friend would also most likely need to get a telecoil program set up and shown how to use i. I donāt know yet which Oticon hearing aids he has, but I noticed that they were RIC.
Hi, since your reply Iāve explored the market for wireless microphones which have noise cancelling capabilities and there are a number of offerings out there. They are not focussed on ācleanā sounds, quite the reverse.
But, ever optimistic, I still hope to find such a system that works with my iPhone & Signia Strettaās.
Let us know what you find and how it works.
Early days, but I have a partial result.
I have found that a low cost Wireless Lavalier Microphone acts as the iPhoneās mic. when using the Live Listen function in the Signia App.
Which suggests that a good noise cancelling directional microphone will help in a noisy social situation for one-to-one communication.
Sadly the Live Listen function is erratic ā¦ but there, thatās Signiaās App for you.
My next step is to see if thereās a coding solution that will suppress the internal mic in preference to the external mic.
Thanks for your interest - any comments / advice welcomed.
Mike
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Hi, Iāve finally found a route to using a wireless noise cancelling microphone without using that awful Signia App. A Hollyland Lark M2 wireless cavalier microphone connected to the iPhone, using the iPhoneās (Settings>Accessibility> Hearing Devices>Live Listen) enables a vastly improved reception of my partnerās speech in say a noisy restaurant or beside a busy road. It vastly out-performs the Signia StreamLine microphone in every respect and costs 40% the price (Ā£91 vers Ā£234). Next I need a solution for small social groupsš
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I love that you found this. But note that it wonāt work unless you have MFI Bluetooth which is required for the Live LIsten feature on iPhones. So with my Phonak, with Classic Bluetooth, I cannot access Live Listen.
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Of course with Phonak, I donāt need your workaround, but I heard another hearing aid has changed to Bluetooth Classic - donāt recall which one.
Suggest you buy a used iPhone and a Lark M2 it will be cheaper & better
Howās latency? Looks like a nice microphone.