Used Phonak Roger Pen iN licenses

You don’t need two licenses just because you have two Aids.

I’m only using one license myself but have two Aids. Left ear is shot for speech.

@Baltazard

  1. either is fine. Bonus of 02 is the EasyGain feature.
  2. receivers need to be 1744 or later. 1743 won’t work.
  3. you need a roger installer for the OP Aids.
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eBay is your friend.

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Only if you don’t care about hearing the Roger in both ears…

I’d think an astonishingly few people with two HAs wouldn’t want to hear in both ears. And @Zebras is just that special!

WH

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Yes, the Roger stuff is expensive. I am now 3 years into it, started with the Select IN at full price then bought pens and Table Mics on Ebay for cheap. I really don’t believe that I would have been able to continue working without all those devices. Plus being able to hear as well at dinner parties and other group gathering. How much is that worth? I can’t put a price on it but in my case it is a lot.

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Want and afford are two different things.

I was only saying to the OP that having one license isn’t ‘not allowed’ as he asked about using Roger with one license.

And no, I’m not special!

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Yeah @Zebras has covered most of this question @Baltazard, and @Psych1 as well… eBay is a great source for (02 & 03 Roger x receivers) not so long ago, I bought a (02) that was only 6 months old for around £56, and that price was what I offered… And yes you need the Roger Installer, (got mines from Korea) unless you have a Roger “In” ALD… One thing I would say, even if your hearing is very poor in one ear (like my left ear) no response above 3k, I notice a big difference with only 1 receiver license installed, clarity and word recognition is poor, but with 2 receivers, it is much improved… I tried the first couple of years, with the Roger pen, and only 1 Roger X (03) (twas all I could afford, at the time) it was poor, in comparison to 2 receivers… I am very patient when buying Roger X receivers, I will wait months for the correct price, well the correct price for me, and I now have 3 sets of Roger X, 2 x sets of (02) 1 x Set of (03) saves me swapping them around, Naida P90 have (02) my backups, Naida M70’s (02) and Marvel 90 RIC’s (03)… All the bases are now covered :upside_down_face: Cheers Kev :wink:

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the license thing is confusing for sure. I bought a used Roger pen that came with a Roger x. I have resound hearing aids and have the multi mic. I put the x on the multi mic, snyched the the aids to the pen, and it all works fine for me. I have no idea if there was or was not a license involved. it is an older easy pen. my whole out of pocket was $30 or so for the multi mic (e bay ) and about $80 for the pen and x together. ( I don’t think the seller realized the x had its own value. ). I called Phonak support for clarification and I am pretty sure she said license not involved. U may be able to use the Phonak neck loop the same way I use the multi mic, ( attach the x )

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The “license” is only involved with Phonak (or Phonak related, like Costco KS 9 and 10) Marvel, Paradise and now Lumity hearing aids. They already come with receivers built in, but they need to be activated for them to work. We on the forum seem to have settled on “license” to describe this, but I don’t believe Phonak uses that terminology. So, in short you would have no need for a “license” because you have a physical receiver. Congrats on picking up such a great setup to help your hearing for so little money!

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Ah thank you - completely unaware of that but I’ll remember it for next time.

probably not as great as the new Roger devices, Roger on, but better than the multi mic alone ( that is great 1/1 , but not so much in groups ). the pen helps more in groups, easier to point where you want to hear, not perfect, but helpful for sure. Often , I elevate it , put in on a cup, ketchup bottle , and point the microphone towards the speaker.

Here is a link to the Roger configurator:

https://www.phonakpro.com/us/en/support/product-support/wireless-accessories/roger-configurator.html

Interesting, in my opinion if you rank all the Roger , type 3, devices the Easypen would be at the bottom of the list. And yet it is quite good and far better than any ALD from any other brand. And, with creative shopping, can be purchased inexpensively

so, anyone who uses the Roger x receiver set up does not need the license that I keep hearing about.? ie connecting the x to a com pilot? I used the multi mic so I did not use the com pilot ( which is a necklace attached gadget with the connection for the Roger x ) that came with the pen. ( if anyone wants it )

Correct. You do not need to worry about a license if you have a physical Roger receiver that connects to a device.

can you elaborate as to the difference in performance between the easy pen and the newer Roger on that replaces the pen?

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It is possible to buy the receivers and move the license out to marvel, paradise or lumity HAs. You’d need that license in there if it were intended to plug the Roger x receiver into something.

WH

Not sure if this is of help:

The pen is intended to either be pointed at a speaker or held by or attached to the speaker. The Roger On can be used that way or set on a table and it has the ability to focus it’s microphones on a speaker. It is an expensive piece of kit though. For details, look on Phonak Pro website or search on the forum.

Using the Phonak myRogerMic app and Phonak Roger On to demonstrate directional audio: