“BT” usually stands for “Bluetooth” but I don’t know in what context you are finding it.
Regards, Nate
Has anyone else experience the Quintra 2c as being polyphonic on tones that are not polyphonic? I know one other new user who expressed the same thing, and we both previously had Rexton Revo’s for the past 6 years. We are not new to wearing HA’s. I did expect the quintra’s to help me decipher speech perhaps a bit better. But I am not finding that to be the case. It may just be ‘how it is’. But I had hoped advances in technology over the past 6 years would have given me a boost in deciphering speech in quiet settings like at home. Not the case. I am pnly 7 - 8 weeks into this fitting and have gone back to my Costco HIS every couple of week for adjustment.
8 weeks in and still not happy… it’s time to pull the plug and move on.
I am watching these posts with interest. I am the other guy and groberts and I have been communicating. I have the exact same experience with the Quintras as he does. Speech is not better and I get some spurrious sounds. My guess is that the Revos we both had previously were not bad at all. I expected to be wowed by new technology but it is not happening. Granted, I am only 12 days into the process and will go for my first adjustment in two days.
I’m two weeks into the Quintras. What are the “binaural” features that are not available on the Quintras vs. Kirklands. I’m thinking of whether I should stay with these or try the Kirklands.
Thank you in advance
The KS5 has Binaural Directionality which means the two hearing aids work together to coordinate the microphone mode so you get the best response in different environments. For example, most hearing aids switch to a directional mode in noise so you can focus on the speaker in front of you, but if you have someone next to you, that person may be inaudible. The KS5 has the ability to set that side as omnidirectional while maintaining the opposite side in directional mode.
Thank you, rasmus. I’m trying to figure out if that is a good thing for me or not. I am a high school teacher and sometimes I wish I could concentrate on the person in front of me and exclude other talking. I’m not sure if the person to the side being omnidirectional is a good thing in that situation. Gotta think and try different things. I guess in order to experiment with this I would have to have KS5s and not Quintras? I’m going to stick with the Quintras for a while longer since I’ve only had them two weeks. So much of this seems to be theoretical and subjective. I think trying it out “live” is the best test, which I am doing with the Quintras. I still have to make a list of things I want to discuss with the fitter at Costco tomorrow. He seems competent and willing to help. I’m lucky that I have 4 Costcos within 20 minutes of my house.
Thanks, Nate, for your thoughtful post.
I like FITTER as a generic term.
Audiologists have lots of class time, but i know of ZERO research showing that they do better than other fitters.
Consumer reports found many poor fittings, and no diff between audis and fitters 2009.
Elijah
I am researching my first HAs for mild low freq and moderate high freq loss. The HIS at the local Costco strongly recommended KS5s. He felt they were far superior to the previous KS4s (Rextons?). When I asked him what Costco product he would recommend for a mini-BTE, he said I should go somewhere else. He did not like the options available at the store. I was surprised he was so set against anything else. Your post above addresses my intended question, since you are leaning toward a different Costco HA. I might like the KS5s when I try them, and I might not need a second choice. But If I want a smaller HA, should I press to try a different Costco HA (which ones?) or just go elsewhere (and likely pay more)? BTW, the HIS has over 20 years of experience.
Thanks for any advice.
I have been posting and hanging around this forum for a while now. I am in a 45 day trial for Widex Dream 440’s (RIC).
Lots of unhappy Costco users…I guess you do get what you pay for. $1900 vs. $5000. Hmm, there must be some difference besides price.<object type=“cosymantecnisbfw” cotype=“cs” id=“SILOBFWOBJECTID” style=“width: 0px; height: 0px; display: block;”></object>
Willy,
We see what we want to see. I see the satisfied Costco shoppers, and learn from you who see the unhappy ones.
I think there are fine costco fitters, and there are others. No doubt.
That’s true for outside HIS and Audis, too. imho
I like Costco for quality, amazing return policy, strong support, and OFTEN good people.
Not always, of course.
my opinion is that you often pay A LOT for a hearing aid, and do not always get value for money. At main street shops, with Audis attached to ENT docs, and at Costco. So I am not sure that you get what you pay for.
Sometimes, you get a lot less. And maybe sometimes you get more?
Thanks for posting,
elijash
If size is the most important consideration for you, Costco has the Rexton Charismo. It’s a very tiny instrument which is unnoticeable when worn behind the ear. It doesn’t have wireless support, so you can’t use it with a remote control or Bluetooth streamer, but it’s ultra small.
Thanks for the information.
Some food for thought on your theory:
An expensive watch is more accurate, right?
If this is your first time buying an expensive wristwatch, there is one very important fact you need to know in advance. A $25 Timex or Casio digital watch will keep time just as well as, and possibly better than, a $20,000 solid gold mechanical Omega, Rolex, or other very fine watch.
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Best wishes, Nate
I bought the Rexton Quintras, among other things, because they were smaller. Having had them for a while now, I am not sure they are any more visible or comfortable than my old Rexton Rivos or for that matter the new KS5’s at Costco. I think beyond a certain size smaller just does not matter much, for me, at least.
Man oh man oh man, I wish I was in sales and knew where you lived. You are a shady salesperson’s dream customer!
I am a Costco fan all the way around. I shop for many products there, HAs included, not just because of price but also because of quality, customer service and support. I am very happy with the hearing department at costco and have been a customer for 6+ years. I have always had the best service and support there.
Not affiliated yada yada…
I’m currently demoing the quintras. I’m using the power receiver in canal model. It’s very early yet but so far they seem fine though they need further dialling in, both by the audi and my brain.
I’m posting because I’ve been wearing HA’s for 40 years now. So i’ve had a lot of experience with audi’s and fitters and ent’s. I’ve found Costco no better and no worse than the private dispensers (including ENT’s and audioloogy departments of large hospitals).
It all boils down to your individual fitter. Period.
I’m currently also demoing the Oticon Alta’s. A very fine aid indeed, with what I consider as good a speech quality as one could expect. Where it falls down is the compressed feel of speech in noise. Not bad mind you, and intelligibility is very high. Which for most would be the only thing of importance. btw, performance with a phone is execrable. Not so much the sound but with no telecoil, it has a hard time picking up the voices. I’d buy the blue tooth. I briefly tried it in the audi’s office and it was nice.
I found Starkey’s a bit ‘sloppy’ for my tastes. Too much variation from situation to situation, a a certain overall looseness. Sort of like a midrange stereo speaker, vs a very expensive speaker. I did like the sound signature vs the oticons, a fuller sound.
The Bernafon Accriva 9’s were interesting. Totally different than anything I’ve heard. As if they were trying really hard to duplicate natural sound but just didn’t have the speed or oomph to get it done. Mind you my loss is in the severe range. I’ll post my audiogram when I get a chance to look for it.
Over the years my favorite aids have been Sonic Innovations. Very natural, though at the expense of speech isolation. Now that my hearing has gotten progressively worse, I’m not so sure they have the power I need. I go Tuesday for a Flip 80 fitting, so we’ll see.
I’ve demoed the last generation of Phonaks. Detestable. For me. The programs just aren’t very bright and fall all over themselves trying to adjust to the sound environment with none really taking charge.
My background is in science so I’m well aware of all the compromises that need to be made because of hardware and software limitations.
For those of you with little experience with HA’s and fitting. Take your time. Don’t be afraid to drive your dispenser crazy. It’s only hours for them, it’ll be years of wearing for you. Besides, they get paid to work. (interesting concept that).
So find the right dispenser, take your time. Allow your brain to adjust, fine tune, fine tune again. And be prepared to compromise. The hard part is learning which compromises work for you.
I’ve got a lot of experience, and I still get frustrated so hang in there.
Oh, yes. The quintra’s seem to be a fine aid. Very fast processing, reasonably clear with a nice open sound. Too early to comment more. I’ll repost after I get some more time with all these aids under my belt.
Thanks for the informative and encouraging post.