For some people (including me) it’s a weird sound perception, as in it was harder to tell certain sound sources, a slight delay/echo as well, I never got used to them and went straight back to my MP.
Thanks. I don’t seem to be experiencing that kind of thing. I do like the feeling of openness. Kind of like the outdoor program I had on the Prezas.
The fitter only gave me the standard program saying that its adaptability has changed for the better. I insisted on the music program. When I go back, I will ask for the speech in noise program to get the wide-narrow field adjustment in the app. Not sure if I will need the outdoor program yet. Have to get into some windy walking to see!
She also wanted to start me on the “new user” setting even though my Prezas were set for “experienced” and I’ve had aids for 20 years. We’ll change that for sure. Maybe it’s just some help in adapting to the new aids.
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According to the 2021 M&RIE announcement, researchers also found the following benefits of using M&RIE:
- 57% better localization² – a measure that increases over time as the brain re-familiarizes and re-trains itself to take advantage of the subtleties of sound channeled via the pinna
- 15dB increase in wind-noise protection without reducing gain³ and 33% better sound quality ratings when listening in mildly windy conditions compared to traditional mic placement⁴
- 95% of people rated phone placement as easy for non-streamed phone calls⁵
- 9 out of 10 listeners prefer M&RIE for natural sound quality³
GN is said to have made recent improvements in their fitting software, making it easier set users up with ReSound ONE and M&RIE technology.
According to the announcement, researchers also found the following benefits of using M&RIE:
- 57% better localization² – a measure that increases over time as the brain re-familiarizes and re-trains itself to take advantage of the subtleties of sound channeled via the pinna
- 15dB increase in wind-noise protection without reducing gain³ and 33% better sound quality ratings when listening in mildly windy conditions compared to traditional mic placement⁴
- 95% of people rated phone placement as easy for non-streamed phone calls⁵
- 9 out of 10 listeners prefer M&RIE for natural sound quality³
GN is said to have made recent improvements in their fitting software, making it easier set users up with ReSound ONE and M&RIE technology.
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Yeah I’d take that with a pinch of salt please, that’s just hype/blurb from the marketing department working overtime, for those that have used the M&RIE and use the one’s I can say more “nonsense”
The number of test subjects by itself doesn’t mean anything. The amount of scatter (variation, error) in the test group and the control group determines how many test subjects you need to draw a valid conclusion. And the distance between the mean of each group vs. the scatter within each group in outcome.
In the extreme, you could have five subjects in each group (let’s say mice to be nice). You give the drug to five mice. They all die. You give a placebo to five other mice. They all live. There’s a high probability that the drug is highly toxic to mice. You probably don’t need 150 mice in each group to prove that. If, instead, two die in the drug group and one dies in the control group, now you’re in a situation where you need more numbers.
If ReSound has good statisticians, they made the group large enough to get statistically valid results and there should be p value somewhere in their whitepaper. If the p-value were 0.05, that means one time out of 20, the observed results could be due to random fluctuation. If the p-value were 0.01, only one time in 100 could random fluctuation explain the results.
But you don’t just pick a number like 150 and say, “I don’t think that was large enough.” That’s not statistics. It’s just a gut feeling.
I love the M&RIE installed on my Jabras! I added them a few weeks ago!
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You’ve tried both! Can you say anything about the difference?
I’m afraid I can’t offer much specific response 
I don’t have a live-in partner, someone I talk with all the time. My experience is just being out and about on errands and 3-daily-miles-of-urban-walking-exercise, talking with neighbors, shop keepers, and friends. And a bit of streaming. From that–I’d say I generally hear better and more clearly than before I had the 3rd mic installed. Notably, I now can hear my laptop (Macbook) audio very clearly, as I could not do before w/o some kind of boost. I use the Outdoor setting successfully at the waterfront (some wind) when walking with my son–formerly, I relied on an external mic.
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AND last evening I chose to watch a ‘tv episode’ on my iPad instead of the tv. The streaming audio to my ears didn’t want to work/connect on both sides, so I switched to ‘normal’ thru-the-air audio and heard very well using my M&RIE/HAs. This on my Jabra EP20s.
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Is really Bluetooth LE & auracast available for Costco Jabra 20 offering?
Because of this Resound Nexia new feature probably many will get their next HA from Costco for less than ReSound Nexia itself.
In this regard, my 2nd audiologist I went to for fitting M&RIE receivers had the audacity to offer me an upgrade from my current ReSound Omnia 9 (previous top model) to Nexia for above $7K. This audiologist business driven by excessive profits on expense of the senior pocket need to be regulated as well. It’s a shame that these hearing aids businesses are using the unexplainable lack of Medicare coverage to push their profits above the limits.
I can attached to demo how well M&RIE receivers works with Resound Omnia 9 deeper in my canals. However please provide with step-by-step instruction how I can attach a photo?
Microsoft Copilot quote as to why Medicare does not cover hearing aids:
The reason behind this is primarily related to the expense associated with hearing aid coverage. Some hearing aid plans can cost thousands of dollars, and including them in Medicare coverage might result in higher rates for all Medicare recipients123.
Microsoft Copilot link to the whole answer: Microsoft Copilot: Your everyday AI companion - despite the dumb conversion by the Discourse software, it’s a link to a specific query
Microsoft Copilot explanation of why Medicare does not cover dental care: Microsoft Copilot: Your everyday AI companion, again, the link has a specific, detailed explanation.
When you’re writing a post, click the upload button indicated by the red arrow in the attached screen capture. The upload process should be pretty self-obvious, especially if you’re using a computer as opposed to a smartphone.
I’ll add that the new M&RIE (3rd mic) now added to my Jabra Enhance 20s allows me to hear (in my car) the dashboard “warning chirps” that my lights are still on or my keys are in the ignition (I drive an older car!–this stuff is not automatic). I like being able to hear all the necessary sounds. And it improves safety!! For years I have not heard these important signals.
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Sorry, I do not see this attach menu option? I’m using apple iPad Air and the upper menu options did not include this attachment option? Provide please w/ instructions how to do that using iOS operation system, thanks
The upload icon should be right in front of your eyes on iOS. Here’s a screen capture from my iPhone. Look in the lower right below the dialog entry box (rectangle).
You can also just copy and paste a photo or an image from wherever you have it stored on your iPhone into the HearingTracker dialog box directly.
- When viewing a photo or image on the iPhone, swipe down slightly.
- Tap the Share icon in the lower left.
- Tap the “Copy Photo” button.
- Switch to your browser window with your in-progress reply window open.
- Paste the image into the dialog box.
The same Copy/Paste works on a PC, too, and presumably would on a Mac or iPad as well.
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Hello. Please tell me, did you set up the Resound Jabra P20 through the standard Resound Smart Fit application?
Am sorry I can’t answer this; I had my mic installed and the Jabra Enhance Pro 20 HAs set up at Costco by the professional HA technician.
Advanced M$RIE receiver works with its all benefits only for hearing loss audiogram without very steep slop toward severe loss. Second, one can get all the benefits if he/she has enough large open ear canal since M&RIE is more bulky than the standard receivers to be comfortably insert further inside.
In this blog there is attached one photo of M&RIE receiver insert not well in the canal, sticking out enough which shows rather not good fit. Unfortunately I was unable to attached my M&RIE photo which shows a good fit of this receivers as demo.
Third M&RIE receivers are not described really well in detail in order the users to understand how in different environments to get a max positive effect. Find below Resound trainer input about these advanced receivers and turning on their program what can give you in more details:
The M&RIE receivers work in different ways in the programs he has. They are active in program 1 and 3, with program 3 being exclusively M&RIE – while program 1 will use all the microphones on the hearing aid when appropriate.
In program 1 (All-Around) the hearing aid microphones go through these directional patterns depending on the listening environment. More complexity in the environment means a higher likelihood of using the directional modes. For your case, OMNI also means M&RIE mic. For the middle states, where one is M&RIE and one is top-mic directional, several things contribute to the hearing aid’s decision of which ear plays which role. In general, the better ear tends to be the directional ear (left in your case). But if the sound environment is very different left versus right – that also contributes to which ear goes directional. For instance if all the noise was on the left and the person of interest on the right, likely Right would go directional.
Changing the volume of the hearing aid does not change the directional mode, most likely the left ear switching to directional when watching a TV program has to do with the complexity of speech and noise / sound effects/ etc.
Program 2 (hear in noise) is a narrow directional program – using the top microphone to create a narrow beam. “who you are looking at is who you want to hear”. M&RIE is not a part of this program.
New Program 3 (outdoor) will never switch to the top microphones. This is a program that ONLY uses the M&RIE mic down in the ear canal. It is called outdoors because outdoor environments are typically the use case where we don’t want the hearing aids to go directional without the patient’s consent/choice. The benefits are natural wind noise reduction and localization – pinna effect. Recommendation is that this program can be used at home when watching the TV if you don’t like when your left device switches which microphone is dominant. This program is not recommended as a replacement to all day use, as it does not handle complex environments as intelligently as program
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Check I provided today with very detailed M&RIE tech description and setting from Resound trainer. It was very helpful to know that the audiologist office can remotely send a M&RIE setting in order to turn on this advanced receiver and take advantage of it especially in more wind noisy outdoor environment I use when biking.