Hi,
I’ve been using Genie 2 for a couple of days now and I was wonderthing a few things:
1. Impact of personalization questions:
What’s the impact of those questions on the fitting? I’ve noticed changing experience from none to short/long term also changes the questions.
2. Circles at some places:
What are they? And based on what are they made?
3. Different gain controls:
What’s the difference between 1, 2 and 3?
Click on number 2 and you’ll see gain increase. Number 3 gain increases more.
It’s to start off new users slowly with the amout of gain needed.
Number 3 is your ideal gain.
These are suggestions selected by Genie 2 ( standard settings for your fitting ) and could be changed
Your answer is correct , the answer of these questions changing the overall hearing experience.
e.g. Changing Experience from none to short/long term → changes gain controls: from 1 to 3
→ see your 3rd question
Ah! Got it, when I change my experience to “long-term” it defaults to 3. Thanks!
Are these suggestions based on something? E.g. the questions from question 1?
These questions were developed by Oticon to allow the programmer to set a template for the user’s preferences. Some fitters (or DIYers) may wish to use utilize the Personalization questions to get an idea of a default starting point for a new user.
Most experienced fitters skip this section TBH.
If you click on the “?” icon at the top right on any screen, you’ll be presented with Genie2’s on line help for that section, which explains the various controls & parameters.
Edit to add a link for you:
A very valuable resource.
You can get an account , and take courses, but of course, you’ll not be credited!
Like @firenzel said, the circles are basically to let you know that these are the suggested “default” values based on the prescription to your audiogram. Part of what you choose in the Personalization page may affect what is suggested as the default values for you as well. It’ll start out at these default values, but you can change it to something else you prefer if you don’t agree with their suggested default values. Usually the default values are in the mid range, but not always. It depends on the purpose of the program you choose to use as well.
To add to this, in the Fitting Page, under More Tools → Automatic Adaptation Manager, you will see the 3 adaptation periods. If you choose to set this up, then you can specific the period that it’ll change from phase 1 to phase 2 to phase 3 to how slow or fast you want to adapt to the volume level. It should be obvious that these 1, 2, 3 correspond to the 1, 2, 3 sets of gain curves you see in the Fine Tuning section. If you choose to skip the adaptation manager and go straight to the final level 3, then it’d be pointless to try to change any gain curve values for 1 and 2 in the Fine Tuning section. 3 is the main one that you want to mess around with most of the times to adjust the gain curve to your liking.
After taking a look at “Acoustics” I was wondering why 1,4mm and 2,4mm is included twice in the list (custom molds):
@Volusiano since you’re the expert with Genie 2 I was wondering whether you know more about this 
I notice in your earlier post where you had a screenshot of your setup that you have the Real 1 with Open Bass Dome selected. The vent for that selection is already predetermined and Genie 2 doesn’t give you a choice of vent size like what you show above. So I wonder why you’re asking about is in the first place. These options for vent sizes only apply to their various mold selections. Are you just exploring selecting the various different molds and vent sizes just to see how your prescription may change? If not, just ignore it and stick with selecting the actual fitting you are currently using (I assume it’s the Open Bass Dome as shown). You’re not supposed to select anything else except the correct fitting that you’re using in order for Genie 2 to prescribe the correct gain for you.
Also, any deviation in your fitting selection will re-prescribe and invalidate your previous gain curves that might have had the REM adjustment integrated to it already. You should really just start with the original session where you load the settings stored in your HAs into a new Genie 2 client profile session and use that as a starting point, and make sure you don’t fiddle with any of the fitting selection.
Having said all that, it looks like what you’re seeing is the various vent size options you’re seeing for the various mold options they offer. I don’t wear molds myself so I’m not 100% sure why they’re showing 2 1.4mm and 2.4mm options. If I have to guess, the Medium 1.4mm option is the built-in vent already made for the Medium size mold, while the other sizes (not associated with Small, Medium or Large) are not pre-built vent sizes but customized vent sizes that might have been fitted for you. For example, there’s an option to make a mold with the biggest vent hole, and there are plastic plugins made for that mold hole size, and the plugin has a vent hole inside of it. The idea here is that instead of having a fix size vent drilled directly into the mold, they just drill a big hole and use the plug with various vent hole sizes to plug up that big hole. This will make your mold’s vent size “selectable” using the plugin, instead of unselectable fixed size.
So I’m just guessing here that Medium 1.4mm is a fix size vent hole for the medium mold, while plain 1.4mm here is a variable size hole you can choose by using the appropriate plastic plugin for that vent hole size.
Haha, your memory serves you right
I’m exploring and selecting different mold and vent sizes in order to get a better understanding of HAs.
And a great theory, I will test this next week with my HCP.
Good guess V.
Oticon did offer Select A Vent earmolds (don’t know if they still do).
And you still can get vent plugs if the vent is too large, so as to either prevent feedback, or close the vent altogether.
