Thanks kevels55! I have had my tinnitus about tventy years. I was working in a noisy factory making phone charger. It is loud hum, not beeping or ringing. Like an old steamengine. 
It was very irritatting two months ago… now much more easier. I have listened Resound Relief whale sounds. Relax me…
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I didn’t realise it did this. Is it the Widget that shows it?
I’ve had Tinnitus for over 20years from playing (very) loud guitar. I never recorded a date, when it just never went away. It’s mainly high pitched, loudest around 2K, but many frequencies, some higher and some lower. I tends not to vary much in intensity though. I notice it most when doing a hearing test, as I’m listening for a tone, amongst all these tones. Pool for me tonight (Wed league cup match 5-4 down), and tomorrow (start of Thursday League). We’re doing 10 singles and 2 doubles. Can do this witb 5 players. These international rules have really speeded the games up.
Peter
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Hi Peter,
Yes. You can see this when you go into the program and click on “Adjust Settings”:
At the top - you can see Calm Situation.
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Ah, I get you, many thanks. I’ve disabled Autosense as I don’t like some of what it does. Now I know this, I’ll be able to adjust the specific element. Thank You
Peter
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Thanks. Actually, I am familiar with Oticon as I have worn their aids supplied by the NHS, on and off, for 35 years. I wore an analogue aid in 1989, and then in the last 15 years, an Oticon Spirit Zest - a mid range aid.
But, admittedly, I have not worn an OPN, which as you know is different in philosophy to the Phonak approach. However, the Oticon Dynamo, according to the Oticon marketing spiel - does make use of “brainhearing”, which is the word used to pick up on speech cues.
So what do I think of the Dynamo? Well - when I was first fitted with it, I was not that impressed. Music sounded non involving. It had the same fitting algorithm as my KS 10s - the NAL2, and it had bluetooth, but I would need the streamer pro, which I dislike, so I never bothered getting it. It was purely a backup for my KS10s and I used them in the last few days of a shetland bike tour when one of my receivers broke.
6 to 9 months later, I decided to pull them out of the box, so to speak, and I rang the NHS and asked for some adjustments to the gain, remembering, that the NHS had altered the gain by 6dB upwards for my previous Zests. They did this and the effect was that I had lots of feedback. They went back in the draw.
Anyway, I took them out of the draw after a bit and listened to some music. It suddenly hit me. This is brilliant. No…wait…this is the best music I have heard in 25 years. What?? Better than my KS10 Rics, better than my Oticon Spirit Zests, better than my Phonak Savia 211s. I had given up on music because I thought digital hearing aids could not reproduce it like analogue aids, but here I was, I could not believe my ears. And the thing is, the music did not need to be loud, it sounded just as good quiet and it even sounded good, I noticed, when I was talking to someone. What? Yes, I realised that unlike with Phonak, where it would kind of semi shutdown and go into a comfort in noise program, the music still sounded great in a noise situation with the Dynamo.
So I am wearing this old tech, the dynamo. Heh. Put it in the draw and use it for music. Well. I get relegated to the back of my wife’s car on a family visit and I decide to get them out to listen to the music. I suddenly realise, that at speed, I can hear.my wife’s voice more clearly, and my daughter in the front. WTF. This is the old tech. Wait. They are better in the car than my KS10s? Yes!
OK. So I can use them in the car and for music. Maybe not for noise. A few months later I go on a college visit and have a set of bad experiences in noise wearing my Unitron RICs. The following week I go to the Cambridge Corn Exchange and wear the Dynamos. And…guess what? I can hear the 2 people either side of me in noise.
So, sorry for the long post, but I think there are possibly a couple of important conclusions here. Firstly, in my case, RIC and standard BTEs have not reached my loss. Secondly, we should not dismiss old tech. I think a lot of people are getting really excited about 2 to 3 dB improvements, perhaps justifiably, but it might be the case that there is still room for optimisation of their current set up, including a correct fitting and form factor.
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Any reason a BTE would sound better than a RIC
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I think it depends on the hearing loss. For people with severe to profound loss the BTE superpower aids are providing up to 78dB of gain and 138dB of output, whereas a UP receiver on a RIC is providing 70dB of gain and 130dB of output. I believe the Naida UP has 2 receivers. The extra power is required to reach those profound losses, so it will sound clearer to them.
Also, it has been said that the thick tubing on a BTE makes a difference. I don’t know the physics of this but you could say there is more sound travelling, a greater bandwidth.
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So my Audi has manage to get some Nadia UP BTE for me to try along side my Audéo Lumity’s L90 RIC (also UP) for next week. It will be interesting to see the difference in sound quality. I also notice that the Nadia SP model could have also been suitable for my hearing loss but I read that the UP has 2 receivers so maybe this would be better for sound quality and clarity??
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Well @marnold, I have used both RIC & BTE’s, IMO the BTE aids, always sound richer & fuller, than RIC’s, that may be a personal preference, but in the past, I have also seen some professionals on this site, occasionally make similar comments about the sound scope of a BTE, so perhaps, I am not alone? Admittedly, these comments have been few, and far between… So perhaps if @Neville or @Um_bongo would kindly give their professional opinions please, as to whether a BTE sounds richer & fuller than RIC’s? Cheers Kev 
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@kevels55
Just returned from pool match (we lost in the last game), but fun was had. Anyway my hearing loss is moderate/severe so I’m not at this stage yet.
I have Bolero Marvel M70 which came with thick tubes and full molds/moulds. I’ve since tried thin tubes with domes (took away the high frequency gain I need), and am now trying thin tubes with Custom Slimtips. This combination, using NAL-NL2 seems promising, BUT I hear thin tubes may restrict the “fullness of sound” you’re referring to. I shall persist.
My main aids are Audeo Paradise P90-13T, and have the 2M receiver. It is clearer. My Audiologist thinks that is because the speaker is nearer to my eardrum. I’m still on Phonak Digital.
Tonight, I added Autosense4 as an additional programme, and checked out the app as recommended by @glucas . And, yes, when I detected a change of programme, it had shifted to “speech in noise”, or “speech in car”. This is power to me making Autosense work to my expectations.
Anywat, I see a difference here. For my loss, I’m trying to get the best out of Phonak aids for severe loss. I want the high frequency gain, without occlusion, or massively loud sounds. I think I can achieve this.
For profound losses, it may be a different ball park.
I shall sleep
Night All
Peter
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Yeah @glucas, I only use twin walled tubing, it’s around double the thickness of normal tubing, I have been using “TW Tubing” for 3 or 4 years now, my A.uD put me on to it, she said I would get around an extra 5db of gain? It works well… Cheers Kev
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I have the exact same setup, Audeo L90 UP, and phone use and bluetooth connection to anything is the best I’ve had. You mentioned iphone and laptop, so its probably not just an iphone issue (I use Android).
What is the specific difference in phone calls?
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Unlucky at the Pool Peter… PM me your address, and I will send you some Twin Walled Tubing for your M70’s, to try out… Cheers Kev
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Sure, you can often get better low frequency gain for a BTE and an earmold for individuals with significant low frequency loss (aka don’t require much venting).
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Thank you. I’ve heard the anecdotal evidence as well and I don’t discount it. I would be interested if science also supported the claims for better sound. I will likely get high power BTE for my next pair.
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You are welcome @marnold… Yeah, it would be interesting if a scientific study was done, how they would quantify this, might be open to conjecture, what sounds good to me, you may find appalling… We all have personal preferences. Cheers Kev
Hello! I am thinking here… is it a big change from one brand to another? I have used GN Resound Enzo Q and now I´ll prove this new Phonak Naida Lumity. Is the sounscape different. I proved Phonak 2018 but can´t remember what model it was. I did´nt liked sound… it was not clarity.
is it now perhaps better? I have used Oticon Chili and older models.
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