thanks! will look into that if the above fails. But I also want her to be able to listen to music when I’m driving and there’s no direct audio input there. Although I could rig it up.
Boy this is becoming a “home project”. Good luck
and “this is a homemade mold from three earplugs which I discussed previously”
Seems to me you could be creating more problems then you’re fixing with tape and homemade mold and who knows what next. Since your so “hands on” I doubt you and your True Hearing specialist will see eye to eye on how to program a hearing aid.
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I just read your posts on another thread. I’m not clear if you tried the exceed or if you tried cochlear implants. Everything I’ve read about the latter is that they are bad for music.
I have spent a huge amount of time doing everything I can to help my wife hear music. I’m a classical pianist myself and the greatest music of Bach, Beethoven and Schubert is profoundly important for both our spiritual lives. The current set up which she listens to with the Phonak – because I blew out headphones and a normal speakers trying to get them loud enough — is by mounting a powerful car speaker in the big box of the normal speaker, sticking an additional preamp in-line with the regular amplifier, and then she puts her head right next to the speaker. I’ve done essentially the same thing in our truck. I’d be happy to provide you with more detail if you want to try anything like that.
I just found this in physicist Brian Greene’s new book Until the End of Time (not great): "Music has a remarkable power to create such profound connection . . . A moving description comes from Helen Keller who [when Beethoven’s ninth was played over the radio] placed her hands on the diaphragm of an uncovered radio speaker and through the vibrations was able to sense the music, to experience what she called the “immortal Symphony,” even distinguish individual instruments. [She said] “When the human voice leapt up trilling from the surge of harmony, I recognized them instantly as voices. I felt the chorus grow more exultant, more ecstatic, upcurving swift and flame like, until my heart almost stood still”.
And then, speaking to sounds that touch the spirit, music that reverberates to eternity, she concludes: “as I listened, with darkness and melody, shadow and sound filling all the room, I could not help remembering that the great composer who poured forth such a flood of sweetness into the world was deaf like myself. I marveled at the power of his quenchless Spirit by which out of his pain he brought such joy for others — and there I sat, feeling with my hand the magnificent Symphony which broke like a sea upon the silent shores of his soul and mine.” [makes me weep just to write this.]
see below. And Laura’s comments here and on all the threads. As I’ve written elsewhere, I don’t know where I’d be, if I’d be if it weren’t for the greatest music of Bach, Beethoven, and Schubert. So I do everything possible to help my life hear these incomparable, infinitely spiritually profound works.
I apologize if I missed some of your comments on earmolds. Seems I remember other threads in the past you talking about different molds and how they helped or didn’t help, not sure.
Molds are critical for so many reasons. Especially when dealing with severe/profound hearing losses. To really get the gain out of a set of aids the molds must be right. From my understanding your wife needs to be in soft silicone molds. They seal better than other types of molds. Lloyd’s can help you with this. You are familiar with Phonak, have you considered the Marvel Naida SP aids? If fit properly they should cover your wife’s hearing loss.
Good luck
I’m afraid we’ve been through this before. The SPs won’t be loud enough. the exceed is great for speech – she is going to keep it. Others have posted here that the exceed is much better than the Naida B UP. But if Naida comes out in the Paradise line, who knows. As I posted above Phonak is working on it but has no idea when
Did you get your cochlear implants? I was researching that more and they don’t always work for people with sensorineural damage which my wife has. If the nerves are bad there’s nothing you can do. but, according to my research, there’s no way to know ahead of time.
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Didn’t mean to sound confusing. I do not have CI’s. I currently wear Oticon Dynamo SP8 hearing aids. I have been giving thought to the Exceed’s, so I pretty much read all the posts here relating to them. I was just noticing that from your post, your wife’s loss is similar to mine so I was genuinely surprised that she could hear music. I have had numerous audiologists attempt to program my aids with a music program.
Anyway, good luck to you and yours.
One implant scheduled for October 1, 2020.
Until you go through the CI evaluation process it’s tuff to say whether or not your wife is a candidate or not. Practically every member on this forum who got implants has done very well with them.
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Given my wife’s experience, if you still find your hearing aids useful for communicating with speech, you should be able to get something out of music. Zebras just suggested a direct audio input boot. We had used this on my wife’s 2 previous hearing aids but I didn’t know it was available for the Naida Q (I should have asked!). I know one is available for the Xceed, and very likely for the Dynamo. If the volume isn’t loud enough you can purchase a headphone amplifier — search online.
Another thing I do for my wife: Because most music has a dynamic range of about 30 dB, by using the free software Audacity I compress it down to about a range of 10 dB or less for her. She needs all parts of the music to be loud. This is also useful for us listening in our truck which is noisy. By using iTunes I make CDs of the compressed music. Audacity can also be used to compress the music into MP3 format which I’ve been doing to load onto our new iPhone 7, through iTunes.
I just got this reply back from Phonak which I intend to send her audiologist: “The hearing care provider can adjust the sound quality of the phone streaming by using the Oticon software in their office. You provider is welcome to contact our Audiology department for assistance with this during your wife’s next visit.” I’m sure there’s some way to get it right. But I think I will have to push on the provider.
if I can be of more help let me know.
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did you, or anyone here, try the DAI for the Naida Q? I just tried it for the Supero and the sound quality was poor — there was distortion, at least at louder volumes — and it didn’t work on tele-coil. This is a nonstarter because music is only good when whistle block is turned off. This is probably why we switched to having her listen on headphones, and now a specially adapted powerful car speaker with tele-coil so she has no feedback. Plus the only place I can find that DAI is in the UK and they want £50 for shipping! But maybe her audiologist can get it if the Oticon doesn’t work out for music.
Reason why the Supero doesn’t sound good to you is because you’ve got normal hearing! Please remember that!
How your wife hears and how you hear are too very different things.
I used to have the Sky Q70 SP (before I had surgery on my right ear) and used DAI shoes. They worked really well.
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I have had shoes on Audeo B90 and Naida V90 aids.
I thought they worked great.
no. I can tell there is distortion. but at lower volume levels (that my wife doesn’t hear at) it may sound okay. But it may be different with the shoes for the Naida Q. But do they work with the tele-coil program? This is essential. As I’ve noted, the ComPilot does not work through tele-coil.
It can if you fit the fm receiver to it. The compilot ll uses Roger X receiver and the compilot uses FM receivers via europlug input.
But I can tell there’s distortion with the ComPilot at higher volume levels.
Your wife hearing loss is worse than mine. I have listen to music but l never can hear the song words. I can no longer hear the phone. I plan on buying the Xceeds in a few years as l would need more gains for speech than the Naidas.
this may be so, but it won’t be the compilot doing this, its the settings in the HA.
Exactly…
Something else to note is the worse a person’s hearing loss is more difficult to tune the aids. In other words, it takes more skill from the fitter to tune aids for people with more hearing loss.
But before you buy the Xceeds, if you are waiting a few years,look into what the latest Naida UP is. Her audiologist said it would stream from both iPhones and android, where as Xceed only streams from iPhone unless you spend $250 for the connect clip.
Phil1 - you’re some what all over the board regarding some unknown time frame for a hypothetical Phonak Naida UP. Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think Phonak ever said they planned to manufacture a Naida UP. So what exactly is your source, since you and I certainly don’t trust True Hearing as a reliable base for predicting future aids. Also Phonak just came out with a Nadia M SP nine months ago. I’m all for more power hearing aids on the market, more selection but I’m not going to tell anyone to wait a few years for a hearing aid that might never see the light of day.