Volusiano:
The assumption here is that if the More1 Music program is restored, its gain curve would look the same as the OPN S1 Music program (for the same audiogram from a patient). I don’t know if this is a good assumption or not, but it’s the only thing available to do side by side comparison at this point.
Yes, your assumption is correct. The OPN S Music program & original More Music program are afaik the same.
SpudGunner:
Theory aside, a big sample of 2 members
(@flashb1024 and @SpudGunner ) would argue forcefully that MyMusic sounds much less dynamic to our ears . MyMusic sounds louder , yes - more dynamic , a definite no .
Absolutely true, that!
Volusiano:
That alone can explain why they don’t want to give users access to modify the compression ratios at will in the first place, let alone considering other things like the fitting rationale factors, feedback factors, spatial acoustics, transient noise management, noise suppression, and what-have-you…
Actually, they don’t want us “USERS” getting into fitting at all.
But the CR’s should be accessible for qualified providers. I don’t go back far enough with Genie to know, but earlier versions , including the one used for the original OPN had access to the CR’s, as does Phonak Target, and I’m sure most other mfgs.
Actually @colorrama88 has a thread on Widex for musicians, in which he inserts salient points from 2 of the leading Musically trained audi’s:
I’m still on trial with Widex Moment 330 and remembered a website titled “ Grand Piano Passion” we are I found two articles with recommendations for programming dedicated music settings on HA’s. This side is a collection of articles and videos organized by a freelance writer in New York and oriented towards adult piano beginners who also have hearing loss. 2 articles by Dr. Chassin, Canada and Dr Bauman, Connecticut. both audiologists totally concerned of providing optimum settings for playing musicians… following are primary points they use in choosing program settings:
M. Chassin article:
First, be sure to select hearing aids that have 20-bit or 24-bit architecture to allow for a higher input level.
(Cassin)
2. A low compression ratio of 1.7 to 1 (or a maximum of 2 to 1) is best for music.
(Baumin article)
Purely Linear Compression Ratio
Dr. Bauman strongly recommends a pure 1 to 1 compression ratio for musicians (instead of the 1.7 to 1 ratio from Dr. Chasin’s checklist). This means that the gain of hearing aid will remain the same regardless of the input.
(Chassin)
3. Disable the noise reduction system for the music program.
The noise reduction system is designed to reduce the sound of the microphone inside your own hearing aid, but this feature sometimes has detrimental effects when used for music.
(Chassin)
4. Disable the feedback management circuit when setting up the music program.
(Chassin)
5. Disable any frequency shifting or frequency transposition for the music program.
(Baumin)
Dr. Bauman always gives less gain for music than for speech, since music is a continuous stream of sound information and the total amount of energy is much greater than speech. Otherwise you riskoveramplifying.
I think that says it all, and here is another great read, if you have an opportunity from our Phonak friends