Tomorrow OPN is launched in UK (there will be training and demostration) so we look forward for some more feedback 
Yeah, should have been there today but the cover for one of my branches wasn’t well.
Any feedback from the the UK on the OPN launch???
I’m also unsure why anyone would want to turn on/off lights with their hearing aids.
Why can’t you have quality of sound & be able stream music / T.V or take a phone call ? I for one would like both as well as being able to deal with very noisy situations.
Justin makes some interesting points. We do overtalk features. And, manufacturers do that too – Oticon included. You can’t be interested in this business without being exposed to it. Directionality is a current biggy. But, even though the names are different, every company has a hearing aid with a form of it.
Hardware-wise, we can consider them all the same. Yes, one says they do it in-house. The others use a foundry. But, the technology is known technology relying on technology heavily developed for computers/phones. None of the hype word size, band width, processor counts and all the rest that are the true specs for processor hardware. Even the 3 pricing levels use the exact same hardware platform.
So, like everything in computers, satisfaction resides in the software. The insides of a Apple are the same components as in a PC. Software differentiates. One HA manufacturer may have the best programming shop. Although, it isn’t clearly apparent. The science/formulas for audio have long been known. Audiophiles and HA users have something in common. I was never a person that could discriminate between an expensive speaker set and a lesser set. It seemed to revolve around volume more than pure highs/lows that other find.
But that’s where there is a separation. We can put 20# magnets for booming lows in something we hang from our ears. The miniature technology for aids is also very close hardware.
Musician loves his Bernafon; I like my KS6; many like their Trax42 and on and on. Every brand works best for their users. Justin loves selling Oticon and differentiates just like the manufacturers who use obfuscation to try to make their brand vastly superior. Its mostly hype.
HA end users are the same as computer geeks and nerds. The geeks want solid info and are turned away. The nerds want the best knowing they aren’t well informed. The industry hype addresses those nerds because the geeks would know better what they are doing.
So, yes, we overtalk features which is what the manufacturers want. The HA industry is driven by hype far more than by technology because the technology is all known and identical at the practical level. For all the studies and papers, it ends being a subjective decision.
+ve is a good chip, seems strong enough
-ve it appears they have rushed to market because there is no music programme, no insitu audiometry and no live demonstration. These features are to be added later in the year.
so the software/ programming software will be impoved.
so in the Euha congress we will have a good idea.
Phonak in the past had done the same with Target software (Spice Platform) had missing features at the start
So yes i would try the new OPN if i was about to purchase a new Hi-end HA…
Having spoken with a couple of people from the launch - Chip is great. RIC platform only…
Seeing that this was going to change the World/Paradigm shift etc, they seem to have botched the release a bit.
Another paradigm shift of the week, eh? 
It would be great if they are just half as good as they claim to be. For me the biggest issue I have is understanding what is being said around me. And also knowing when someone really is talking to me. That is why my stress levels stay so high, if I am around anyone, or a group I have to be on on my toes at all time to be able to hear if anyone is talking to me.
Just ordered a set. Hope they are as good as they say they are. They certainly are not cheap… Canada seems to be the last to get them but hopefully worth the wait.
Got my Opns yesterday afternoon. Quite a bit better than the Agil Pros I was using before. Speech is easier to understand at lower volume on the TV.
You may be the first to get the Opns that I’ve read. I’m hoping to demo them within a week, but would love to get your initial impressions. I wore Agil Pros for 6 years.
I’m on my audiologist’s list to demo the Oticon Opn. Eagerly awaiting that telephone call. The left speaker of my Agil Pro is failing so I’ll see if her insurance plan covers a replacement for me. From my audiogram (below) it should be pretty clear that speech in a noisy environment, telephone (I have a caption call now), and radio are difficult to impossible to understand. Music? I have a pitch shift right about C 256Hz so the lower and upper registers are out of tune. Polyphonic music is also impossible - it helps that most of it is in my memory so sometimes I recognize the theme. Simple music is OK - string quartets, guitar, etc. A hearing aid can’t do much about some of this. I hate getting old.
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I posted this on another thread. I’m trying to connect with people looking at the Opns.
I’ve been on a journey looking to get the Oticon Opns. I’ve worn Oticon Agil Pro for 6 years and like them. I’m ready for something new. I trialed Oticon Alta Pro 2 and like them, but during trial became aware the Opns were being launched. I returned Altas. I’ve looked around at pricing quite extensively. Local Audi quotes $6,900 for 2, discounthearingaidsofamerica.com quotes $4,990 for 2 (go to local audi and order through discounthearaidsofamerica.com), and buyhear.com sells for $3,598 for 2! You send buyhear your hearing test. They order them, program them, and sends you packet (including aids, of course) which allows them to adjust remotely over internet. They offer 60-day 100% money back guarantee. I ordered them and look forward to seeing if this works out. buyhear.com is probably not for everyone, but I feel confident enough to give it a try. I’ll post my experience after they come in.
I just checked your pricing, and the Opn on buyhear.com is for one device at $3598 (Makes them $7200/pair which is a fair price). discounthearingaidsofamerica.com is kind of a crappy, selfish way to go, realistically. You can certainly do it, if your goal is just to get yourself the lowest price and then put your local audiologist out of business by dealing with someone who is technically breaking the law (but if you do that, THEN who is going to make adjustments for you or send devices in for repair under warranty, or get you that replacement battery door, or be available for immediate assistance?)
I just put my Opns on yesterday. Its amazing. Never would have thought it could be this good.
Thanks for your mini-review Justin. What aids have you been wearing that are being replaced by the Opn’s? Since you are an HIS I imagine that you are replacing recent state of the art aids. The Opn’s are really that much better?
Thanks.
[quote=GWerkema;139331] Music? I have a pitch shift right about C 256Hz so the lower and upper registers are out of tune.
GWerkema, you say you have a pitch shift at 256Hz. That sounds kind of like what I’m experiencing. In a certain frequency range I can play a tone and plug one ear and the tone sounds at a certain frequency. Then I plug the other ear and the tone sounds slightly higher or lower. From what I have read, this describes a condition known as diplacusis.
I am a professional singer, so this is career-threatening. My audi has no idea how to diagnose or mitigate this problem and doesn’t know whom to refer me to.
How did you come to understand this “pitch shift”? Did your audi diagnose it? Do have any suggestions that might help me? Thanks.
Actually, the pricing $3,598 per pair is correct. https://www.buyhear.com/collections/oticon/products/pair-oticon-opn I ordered a pair yesterday. As I wrote, I don’t think that this is for everyone. The jury is still out on it, though. I am beginning this process with them, so we will see. I have a 60-day money back guarantee. After my trial period with my first pair of hearing aids 6 years ago, I only needed my aids adjusted once. I have my old aids that will get me by in case I need to send Opns for repair, etc. I do admit that I’m taking a chance, but willing to do that to save over $3,000. If that is selfish, then I’m guilty. I don’t see that going with discounthearingaidsofamerica is selfish either. They have a network of audiologists (local businesses) willing to have clients purchase through them. The audiologists are freely making the decision to be involved in this arrangement as well. Also, is it selfish to go with Costco arrangement? I realize that I am not seeing things as viewed by probably most audis in this forum. Maybe they can help we clients/customers understand. Are there any audis willing to charge less for hearing aids and have a fee per service visit after trial period? Maybe this is an unworkable idea. Just wondering. Maybe I’m crazy.
I’d prefer a transparent solution, where you pay for what you get. I dont wanna pay an audiologist for setting up a device that is useless if he hadnt set it up. The first fitting is not a service, it’s part of the product. If I bought an unadjusted HA online and bring it to an audiologist who needs perhaps 3 hours to set it up there is a common sense for what the compensation should be. After that, why not just pay for service like the things you mention when the customer needs it to be done. Why does hypothetical service in guarantee time have to be priced in, thus making the prices so much higher than in the store you name?