I’m not trying to straw man you. You said “can only be set to “target” and fine-tuned on its own”. Which I did read as “don’t run REM on the music program”. And then you said “if you’re doing REM on P1 (General) & the rest of the Philips programs you don’t have it linked to music at the same time, it’s not designed to be” and to be fair I don’t do Phillips, but this is untrue of other demant products.
Say you have an Intent set up with P1 DSL and P2 MyMusic and you run REM and discover that you’re way under targets at some set of frequencies. It is not Oticon’s intention that the patient be under targets there, it’s just a consequence of their ear canal and coupling and this consequence will also be present in the MyMusic program because it’s a physical acoustic issue, not anything to do with Oticon’s special sauce. When you increase the gain at those frequencies to overcome the problem and P1 and P2(MyMusic) are linked, it increases the gain in the MyMusic program in the problem areas but in no way sets the MyMusic program to DSL targets. And indeed if you had NOT done this or if you set P2 back to first-fit, the MyMusic program would not be doing what Oticon wanted it to do. On the other hand, if you start wrangling the compression in P1 because Oticon’s implementation of DSL is just inacurrate, then you will be wrangling the compression in P2 which may not be ideal. So do clinicians need to understand what the hearing aids are doing and be sensitive to how what they are doing impacts things in different ways? Sure. REM does not always mean running lines through dots. But this seems like a minimum standard for a competant clinician, as does having an understanding of how to build a music program, although I’ve been disappointed in the past.
Just to be clear, because it is sometimes hard to know how the ways in which people start to get riled up on the internet, I can disagree with someone without disliking them or thinking less of them. But I do know my stuff and I’m not a cruel person. So if you try not to read my responses as me trying to willfully straw man you I will try not to read yours as condescending.
If they were measured they were probably saved somewhere and I suppose you could ask for them, but don’t put them into the software on top of the REM adjustment which has already been made with them taken into account.