I am using my P90’s microphone while teleconferencing on Microsoft Teams on my Windows machine. You need to change your voice input device.
OTH, it’s not correct to say that the Paradise is the only HA that can connect to two devices at the same time even now - I guess it depends on what you want to call the connection. But, for instance, with the Phone Clip+, I have set the phone connection to be my Android phone, I have set the media connection to be my iPhone (and could presumably set it to any other BT device like my PC). I previously checked and posted that I could play a podcast on my iPhone and take a phone call on my Android phone at the same time - the phone call interrupts a podcast but after I hang up, I go right back to playing the podcast where I left off. Quote out of the Phone Clip+ manual:
You can pair up to 8 Bluetooth devices with the Phone Clip+, but
only 2 Bluetooth devices can be connected/active at a time.
The PC+ uses classic Bluetooth to connect to devices, so anything a Paradise can connect to, the PC+ can connect to, too, via classic BT. So it’s just not right to say that Phonak has the only hearing aid that can handle two simultaneous live connections at once. Undoubtedly it’s true that Phonak is unique and special in quite a few ways but having an active connection to more than one device at a time is not one of them. And when one might be spending up to $7K or more on an HA model and its accessories, it would be silly to make the “connects to more than one device at a time” the crux of a buying decision, especially when it just ain’t a Phonak exclusive. What Phonak could do, and it would be a great selling point for me as a potential future Phonak user, is to keep the great special classic BT connectivity but also add BT LE Audio as another device connectivity option. Then Phonak would offer the best of both worlds in one device and that would be really hard to beat and a real bragging point.
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I’ve had my set of Phonak Paradise P90Rs for two weeks. Paired to both my work & personal iPhones. Works great for phone calls, although I haven’t tried the simultaneously yet as that never happens IRL. As for streaming my books from Audible & music it’s a crapshoot as to which iPhone is going to pick up using the tap feature on my HA. If I start from one of the iPhones that works great, too.
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Hi Kim,
Have you manage to connect to an iPhone and a windows Laptop at the same time? that would be really cool if you could.
Yes, I would prefer to get the aids now. I’m aware of the new connectivity solutions that are coming in the future, but that could be a year or two away.
I was Android but by sept this year I started using iPhone se 2020 because the new Resound Preza Costco, soon I figured out I am having problems because time to time I need the Costco Preza connected to my Android Chromebook.
I got on eBay a Resound Unit Phone Clip+ and it work wonderful, with this Clip+ I can be Bluetooth to my Chromebook, but, to my surprise my iPhone se still keep the connection to the Preza Costco.
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Feature of HA to directly connect with something.
Not feature of its accessories.
At least that’s how I make the distinction when someone asks which aids can do something.
And there paradises are still the only one with 2 bt connection.
To some people accessories aren’t a feasible option.
However, sharing info about other solutions is useful, because that gives you more options!
Thanks for confirming! I didn’t have time to tweak around it, I assumed something there was mixed up, but I couldn’t make it work then with a few clicks back then and I never tried again. I’ll look at it sometime… I use phone for video calls (wapp, skype), friends and family only.
So far no updates.
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I don’t see why it wouldn’t work, but I haven’t tried since I don’t have a need to hook up a laptop/PC.
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Big deal! The HA’s are still effectively connected with two devices at the same time - that’s why I noted in my original comment:
I should imagine the Paradise connection is superior, being direct, the latency ought to be lower, but for many uses, the latency, once streaming gets started, won’t matter very much. I don’t notice latency much in phone conversations and for me it’s ~irrelevant in listening to audio podcasts. Latency for me is most apparent when using anything involving video and I remember latency showing up mainly as a delay for audio getting started when video gets started but thereafter I don’t remember noticing a big problem in lip synch.
So functionally, there’s at least one other hearing aid brand that offers “More than one Bluetooth Connectivity” to a variety of its HA models, some of them several years old. Perhaps there are devices available from Phonak, which like the PC+, effectively allow Phonak HA’s older than the Paradise to be effectively connected to more than one device at a time. IMHO, that might be a more productive direction for the thread to go than quibbling, “But ReSound’s multiple connections, although they exist, aren’t direct!” And when you have to spend upwards toward $7K for some of the HA’s were talking about, using an accessory for multiple connectivity is hardly the end of the world when some people carry around Roger Selects, Multi Mics, etc., with them all the time for other reasons. Maybe some folks don’t need a remote mic but wouldn’t mind carrying around a very small accessory that gives them multiple simultaneous connectivity with two devices (pairable with up to 8 devices).
I tend to agree with you that adding an extra device in general shouldn’t be that big of a deal, but from most of the comments on the forum I get the feeling it is. People seem to want their hearing aid to do it all. Lots of hearing aids offer some sort of device that will offer connectivity and if one is creative enough one can figure out a way to stream from just about anything. I think Blacky is correct that currently Paradise offers unique connectivity. My impression is that there is much more in common with currently available hearing aids than there are differences so any criteria one wants to use to choose one is reasonable.
But should you pay $5K to $7K, perhaps to get the connectivity with Paradises, when if you could tide yourself over for a little bit with a device like the PC+ that would solve a “multiple connectivity” issues in the interim, in a little bit you’d have a wide range of choices for HA’s offering many more benefits in BT connectivity than the Paradises. That’s why I said a more promising direction for the thread would be “How can I get multiple BT connectivity out of my current HA’s (whatever brand) until BT LE Audio arrives in the next year (or two, at most)?!” It would be interesting if ReSound has sold a device for years that allows multiple classic BT connectivity with one’s HA’s and Phonak only managed to figure that out recently with the Paradises and there’s no other way to get it but to spend $5K to $7K for the Paradises (depending on your provider and your insurance coverage, etc) for that sort of connectivity. Given the great technology and versatility of Phonak devices, I’d like to believe there’s some Phonak accessory that offers multiple BT connectivity at the same time to other Phonak HA’s. And the other aspect is that I’d surmise that multiple device connectivity in BT LE Audio will not be backwards compatible to classic BT, will it? So I think with a future ReSound HA, you’ll get the multiple BT LE Audio connectivity but still be able to have your cake and eat it, too, by using the PC+ for multiple classic BT connectivity - although will both BT LE Audio and classic BT connectivity work at the same time? I don’t think the interesting thing for Phonak (or any other brand) is exactly how much BT connectivity is offered now but when BT LE Audio is out, is there any brand that can offer multiple connectivity, no matter whether the connections are classic BT or BT LE Audio??? A brand that can mix and match and handle both types simultaneously would be a winner and maybe it will be Phonak?! That would be worth waiting a year or so to get, IMHO (maybe the Paradises can already do that after a firmware update and Phonak just hasn’t revealed all to us yet?!).
Yup, it’s my impression also.
Not to mention that it often has to be CIC/ITE aid as well.
This is also completely true.
I’d only make distinction oticon approach vs others.
Everything else I think it boils down to lifestyle preferences.
@jim_lewis I feel attacked.
I simply answered the question OP asked.
I agree that offering another solutions is cool, however, you don’t need to bite around to send the message over.
Also, you mentioned the intermediary device and not aids themselves and I must say that I don’t know for all aids how their accessories are called. Eg your first post would be more helpful if it were to provide full information and not focus on proving whatever it is that you wanted to prove.
And when you mentioned select.
For the very reason I wanted select, I decided against testing starkey and resound because I didn’t want one more device to charge and carry around, their intermediary devices. Plus, it would be more expensive solution than going with phonak directly. Plus it’s not that I have to carry select around all the time, as intermediary device should be carried for me having older android phone. And I don’t want to buy new phone as well.
I totally get if someone is on the market for the new aid and wants some specific feature.
I definitely wanted convenience, since it exists.
Plus, as I said, for my situation, the cheapest way was phonak.
If someone asks for alternatives / cheaper ways, I’ll brainstorm.
However, I still think you overreacted and brought tension where it wasn’t necessary.
I think everyone should be able to ask whatever questions they want to know answers for. You are also free to open topics to share your insights.
I tend to answer the questions people ask, and since question from OP was who has this, NOW, the answer is simple.
What the future brings is unknown. Who wants to wait, sure, do that, it makes sense.
However, who doesn’t, because they have immediate needs, and they even explained them, suggesting waiting isn’t helpful.
Not every topic has to have philosophical discussions. Some people open topic to get their answer. And it’s much tidier if we open topics for things inspired by other topics and not continue under old topic.
The original post question, and it didn’t say, it had to be a direction connection, and the answer is “YES, there is at least one other HA brand in which multiple models of that brand for years back can support multiple connectivity (through an intermediary device).”
The average premium HA costs about $5K or more so I don’t think opining as to what you might get shortly as opposed to what you get now is just a “philosophical” discussion. We already know that ReSound Ones will be BT LE Audio capable. Samsung phones and others containing the Qualcomm 888 chip will be. Apple as member of the BT LE Audio SIG will undoubtedly offer its version of BT LE Audio. So very shortly, it’s likely that ReSound through BT 5.2 and LC3 and the PC+ will offer both multiple connectivity to BT LE Audio devices and to classic BT devices, maybe not both types of BT connectivity simultaneously. That’s closer to fact than philosophy. Hope Phonak will be there, too, as I’m very interested in whatever Phonak is offering in a year or two and multiple BT connectivity with Phonak now is not a killer feature (for me) as I’ve already had it with ReSound for years.
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Not realising the complexity of this subject, I wish to thank everybody for their input as this has been a steep learning curve for me.
So the intent of my original question to is get away from my Siemens EasyTek Neck Loop all together. So the new HA has to be able to connect directly (without an intermediary device) to 2 different devices al the same time, in this case my iPhone and my Dell Laptop. The paradise can make 8 pairings, so my MacBook, iMac & TV (though this may have to be through the TV device) would be the other additional pairings etc.
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When using the TV connector it does not count as one of the two connections with Phonak Paradise aids. That’s one of the great things about using it not to mention no latency.
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And because of that, I seem to recall a number of Phonak Marvel users used the TV Connector as a way to achieve additional connections for a computer as well as a TV - although don’t you have to switch between them? -but perhaps you can still field an incoming phone call while streaming thru the Phonak TV connector? The Phonak TV connector is a relative bargain, on the order of $100 or so - as opposed to connectors for some other brand HA’s
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The phone has priority in my case or it did until the implant. While watching TV if a phone call came in, the TV connection would stop and the phone took priority. After the phone call the TV connection would come back on automatically.
The TV connector is lots of bang for the buck in my opinion for the Marvel and Paradise Phonak users.
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I am seeing that 5K-7K USD price tags which is prett scary. You can have P90 R 3500-4000 USD range in İstanbul Turkey.
If anyone needs help about it, i’ll gladly help.
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Hi
Have you tried the compilot Ii loop. I currently use it to support three sources , Windows 10, TV and Samsung phone. The phone and TV are pretty reliable, but the laptop does dropout frequently, particularly when using Teams. Don’t know how to validate the connectionn, before joining a call.
Let me know how you get on with this option
Rgds
Geoff McMullen
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I just upgraded to P90s, seduced by the promise of the Bluetooth connectivity. They work really well with my iPhone but whatever I do, I cannot get them to work with Microsoft Teams. I see that they are coupled with my Windows 10 PC, but when I try the test call facility in Teams, Teams hears nothing and neither do I! I’m a Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer specialising in Teams so this is a bit embarrassing!
The strange thing is that I hear all other PC sounds and can also use Windows sound recorder to record test speech using the P90s. So Windows works with both the microphone and headphones represented by the P90s, just not Teams.
I’m not too proud to ask for help on this - my Paradise experience would be complete if I could get this to work!
Greetings from Switzerland!