Do you hear any difference between the live music setting and the recorded music setting? I will ask for one program which will use for my HiFi music listening, and I am not sure which one to specify. I am confident my HiFi system can do 30 to 18,000 Hz with pretty flat response so it seems it should be similar to live.
I know of no hearing aids that can go beyond 10K and most only go to 8K.
2 Likes
I have the most common hearing problem, the ski slope. My hearing is normal up to 1,000 Hz and then slopes down to where for years I couldn’t hear the highest octave of my 7’ 5" grand piano. With normal hearing at the low end, I hear my piano down to the lowest key just fine and since the highest C on the piano is actually just 4,186 Hz, I can now hear the full piano range. I’m a classical musician and play Chopin and Mozart on an acoustical piano, so the amplifiers and IEM’s used in pop music have no meaning for me. I’m just fine with my Phonak Marvels.
Yes, perhaps Signia are playing with numbers…
I’m going from memory and it’s a bit fuzzy, but I think a lot of the difference is in how the directional mikes are set up. Live is directional (assumes your facing a stage) Performer is omni (assumes you need to listen to other musicians around you) I think Recorded assumes less dynamic range and is likely omni directional. The different settings are discussed somewhere on the forum, but I usually have better luck just using Google.
I’ll do a google search and see what I can find. It sounds like Live would be the best choice for me. When I listen to my HiFi that is all I do. I don’t use it for background music except at Christmas time, and then I go with iPod MP3 stuff feeding the system.
Are the features built into the Music Enhancer something that the fitting technician will see with the Connexx software, and will be able to describe the differences between the three settings?
I would not bet on the technician knowing much about these settings. I brought in material I had found on the web and it was all news to my tech. My take, again from memory, is that the recorded setting would be best for listening to recorded music.
Is that with autosenseos? Or with a special program? Did you have other hearing aids the past to compare your current experience with?
You can look at my audiogram and see what problems I have. The Marvels are the very first HA I’ve ever had. I was fitted on Dec 26th, so I’m not quite two months in. If I had known HA’s were this good I would have done it long ago. I thought all they did was look huge and goofy, squeal all the time, and just make everything louder.
I’ve tried AutoSense 3.0 and I’ve tried the built-in Music Program. I’m convinced that AutoSense is transfering to the Music Program quickly enough that I can’t tell it happens.
1 Like
I’ve also had good luck with the Marvels listening to music. My new RIC silicon custom molds have a pretty large vent, which is really impressive to do without getting whistling with my amplification levels. I was using the power dome initially and streaming music is much different now. The power dome was very occluded, but music sounded amazing when streaming. With the larger vent the music quality or fullness is much lower. We’ve been tweaking and tuning the hearing aid programs and my phone equalizer settings, but have not found a way to bring that richness back to the music. In the end it’s a trade off and I’ve noticed I hear much more of the natural bass from my theater system than before and I love hearing more sound with the remnants of my natural hearing day-to-day, so that’ll be the way it stays for now. A little quiet music streaming is still pretty enjoyable for me, but it’s not nearly as satisfying as it was before.
With music you mean streaming, correct? Is there a difference between streaming through Bluetooth or the tv connector?
Here’s a link that might be helpful to those wanting to listen to music with their HA’s. It’s primarily geared to musicians but also has some good tips for just listening to music.
https://musicandhearingaids.org/2017/01/03/musician-hearing-loss/
Thanks for the article. As a starting point I am going to ask the fitter to do two music programs, one for live and one for recorded, so I can see what the difference is. I am hoping that with vented sleeves I am going to hear some of the bass and possibly some of the highs through the vents? Not sure if the fitter is going to be able to tell me, but I would hope these specific music programs would eliminate the speech in noise stuff, and use an extended dynamic range and extended frequency range? I guess it is a starting point. I am a straight wire with gain philosophy guy when it comes to recorded music. My pre amp bypasses the tone controls. However, over the years I have had to turn up the volume for the left speaker more and more. It will be interesting to see how much I can restore the balance control with HA’s.
I meant without streaming. My last hearing aids didn’t have programs, (Phonak Lyric) so it was always a compromise. These Marvels seem to be doing a great job recognizing music when I sit down at home just to listen to music and the music program gives me a full range without all of the frequency filtering. I have a lot of testing to do with these still, but so far so good. I also have a Music specific program and I’ve had adjustments to that to bring up the lower frequencies to my liking.
1 Like
Sierra, the HAs should compensate for your loss and play the music straight through without any compression, noise cancelling, etc. I have a dedicated music program that I switch to when needed, but so far I’ve found it to sound the same as when I’m in Autosense which is telling me that Autosense is figuring out that I’m listening to music and making the switch for me. If you are a pure/direct sound lover then you will probably prefer to have a dedicated program to just to make sure you are in the right mode. It also prevents unintended switching during pauses in the music. I noticed some of that when someone talks to me while I’m listening to music as it switches around. A music program would avoid that. Also, some of my music tastes apparently sound like noise to the HAs, and suddenly try doing some filtering. I haven’t had a chance to test that out with these Marvels, so maybe I’ll put that on the agenda for today. The Smashing Pumpkins always fooled my older hearing aids. Billy Corgan would be offended!
2 Likes
gr8dane604, I’m enjoying your your descriptions of what changes you’re making with your Marvels to improve your experience and filling in your audiogram would make what you’re writing so much more meaningful.
Thanks Gary. I forgot about that. I had to create a 2nd login/profile due to some forum issues and the new profile didn’t have my audiogram. I’ve added that now, so hopefully that will help give a frame of reference for you. You’ll be happy to know that I also enjoy playing the piano on occasion. I used to play a lot when I was younger, but I haven’t touched the keys in months and it always sounded terrible with my last hearing aids. I need to see how these new ones will do. I’d love to start playing a little more often. You sound pretty hard core with your setup!
1 Like
Yes, I do love studying piano. Here’s where I spend several hours every day…
3 Likes
That’s awesome! Acoustics are probably pretty decent in that room shaped like that. I’ve got an upright Steinway, but I think having these pianos against a wall is less than idea.
WOW!! What a beautiful room!! I really love all the tile and rock work.