I would not bet on the technician knowing much about these settings. I brought in material I had found on the web and it was all news to my tech. My take, again from memory, is that the recorded setting would be best for listening to recorded music.
Is that with autosenseos? Or with a special program? Did you have other hearing aids the past to compare your current experience with?
You can look at my audiogram and see what problems I have. The Marvels are the very first HA Iāve ever had. I was fitted on Dec 26th, so Iām not quite two months in. If I had known HAās were this good I would have done it long ago. I thought all they did was look huge and goofy, squeal all the time, and just make everything louder.
Iāve tried AutoSense 3.0 and Iāve tried the built-in Music Program. Iām convinced that AutoSense is transfering to the Music Program quickly enough that I canāt tell it happens.
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Iāve also had good luck with the Marvels listening to music. My new RIC silicon custom molds have a pretty large vent, which is really impressive to do without getting whistling with my amplification levels. I was using the power dome initially and streaming music is much different now. The power dome was very occluded, but music sounded amazing when streaming. With the larger vent the music quality or fullness is much lower. Weāve been tweaking and tuning the hearing aid programs and my phone equalizer settings, but have not found a way to bring that richness back to the music. In the end itās a trade off and Iāve noticed I hear much more of the natural bass from my theater system than before and I love hearing more sound with the remnants of my natural hearing day-to-day, so thatāll be the way it stays for now. A little quiet music streaming is still pretty enjoyable for me, but itās not nearly as satisfying as it was before.
With music you mean streaming, correct? Is there a difference between streaming through Bluetooth or the tv connector?
Hereās a link that might be helpful to those wanting to listen to music with their HAās. Itās primarily geared to musicians but also has some good tips for just listening to music.
https://musicandhearingaids.org/2017/01/03/musician-hearing-loss/
Thanks for the article. As a starting point I am going to ask the fitter to do two music programs, one for live and one for recorded, so I can see what the difference is. I am hoping that with vented sleeves I am going to hear some of the bass and possibly some of the highs through the vents? Not sure if the fitter is going to be able to tell me, but I would hope these specific music programs would eliminate the speech in noise stuff, and use an extended dynamic range and extended frequency range? I guess it is a starting point. I am a straight wire with gain philosophy guy when it comes to recorded music. My pre amp bypasses the tone controls. However, over the years I have had to turn up the volume for the left speaker more and more. It will be interesting to see how much I can restore the balance control with HAās.
I meant without streaming. My last hearing aids didnāt have programs, (Phonak Lyric) so it was always a compromise. These Marvels seem to be doing a great job recognizing music when I sit down at home just to listen to music and the music program gives me a full range without all of the frequency filtering. I have a lot of testing to do with these still, but so far so good. I also have a Music specific program and Iāve had adjustments to that to bring up the lower frequencies to my liking.
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Sierra, the HAs should compensate for your loss and play the music straight through without any compression, noise cancelling, etc. I have a dedicated music program that I switch to when needed, but so far Iāve found it to sound the same as when Iām in Autosense which is telling me that Autosense is figuring out that Iām listening to music and making the switch for me. If you are a pure/direct sound lover then you will probably prefer to have a dedicated program to just to make sure you are in the right mode. It also prevents unintended switching during pauses in the music. I noticed some of that when someone talks to me while Iām listening to music as it switches around. A music program would avoid that. Also, some of my music tastes apparently sound like noise to the HAs, and suddenly try doing some filtering. I havenāt had a chance to test that out with these Marvels, so maybe Iāll put that on the agenda for today. The Smashing Pumpkins always fooled my older hearing aids. Billy Corgan would be offended!
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gr8dane604, Iām enjoying your your descriptions of what changes youāre making with your Marvels to improve your experience and filling in your audiogram would make what youāre writing so much more meaningful.
Thanks Gary. I forgot about that. I had to create a 2nd login/profile due to some forum issues and the new profile didnāt have my audiogram. Iāve added that now, so hopefully that will help give a frame of reference for you. Youāll be happy to know that I also enjoy playing the piano on occasion. I used to play a lot when I was younger, but I havenāt touched the keys in months and it always sounded terrible with my last hearing aids. I need to see how these new ones will do. Iād love to start playing a little more often. You sound pretty hard core with your setup!
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Yes, I do love studying piano. Hereās where I spend several hours every dayā¦
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Thatās awesome! Acoustics are probably pretty decent in that room shaped like that. Iāve got an upright Steinway, but I think having these pianos against a wall is less than idea.
WOW!! What a beautiful room!! I really love all the tile and rock work.
Would, in your opinion, someone who has been wearing hearing aids his whole life be able to learn a new music instrument? Which one would be the easiest to learn?
Thanks! The acoustics really are superb. I bought the piano when we bought the house 30 years ago. Itās a Kawai 7ā 5" Concert Grand. The house is a contemporary style and the ceiling goes up 2 1/2 stories so the sound really does have room to expand. The lowest octave really growls!
Iāve found with my Marvels that in my situation I get the best sound when playing if I turn the volume rocker down 2 steps. I suppose thatās probably because Iām sitting so close to the sound source when I play. I love it that I can now actually hear the full top octave. In the past all I heard at the high end was the disappointing āthudā of hitting the key bed. Now even the highest āCā rings beautifully just as it should!
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I think the piano can be one of the easiest and conversely one of the most difficult to learn. The easiest beginner pieces can be simple, easy and very rewarding to play. Virtuoso pieces can be extraordinarily difficult to learn and play.
The best advice I can give is to get a good teacher and put in at least an hour of intelligent practice every day. Youāll be amazed at what you can accomplish.
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Thank you for the advice
I have downloaded Connexx 8 and played around with the simulation feature. I believe I now understand the difference between the Music Enhancer features. Both default to having frequency and amplitude compression suppressed.
Recorded Music mode - All noise reduction features are shut off. The microphone is in the iOmni mode (essentially all around).
Live Music mode - The automatic classifier is turned on, and the iWindNoise feature is turned on and set at maximum. The microphone is set to be Directional Adaptive, rather than omni.
Since I almost never would listen to a live concert, and especially outside, I think I will just settle for the Recorded Music mode.
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Great job. This is the kind of stuff youāre not likely to get from a fitter and the only way to access is with the fitting software.
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