This hands free phone call is absolutely slick to me. 95% of the time it was great. The other 5% of the time I learned how to move to another spot with less wind or noise to get better communication. It really simple to adjust to.
Your hearing is getting bad enough to understand what I am saying. Us hard of hearing people learn how to deal with these things. You have great hearing aids. If you are able to communicate with your family and deal with your job, you are fortunate.
My english skill is much more weak than I would like to explain what I would like to say. I have to make phone calls in various environment. I don’t understand why we don’t got chance to change the input of mic at phone calls. It is a joke.
Upon further investigation, via some prompting @Raudrive, it would appear TC is on the UP version, it states so in their blurb…. Unfortunately I can’t find it in Target, I see my AuD this week, and I will ask for it to be activated, and hopefully it will be done…. Cheers Kev
Phonak, the largest hearing aid manufacturer, forces people with hearing loss to choose who is going to hear a phone conversation, you or the person on the other end of the call. You are forced out of streaming the call to both ears (which is crucial for many) if in even the tiniest bit of noise because the other person cannot hear you. So you switch out of BT, hold the phone to one ear and cheer on Apple and (non HIA) OTC!
We want to hear via bluetooth. And would like to select between iPhone’s microphone versus Phonak built-in microphone. Why don’t you understand that the phone call with phonak built in microphone is not the good for my partner everywhere just when I am on a silent environment. He will hear too much around of me.
I’m sorry, but this is unfortunately not possible.
I exactly understand what you want. And I whish myself, Phonak would implement this feature if it is anyhow possible to do this!
My work around is: I set up a manual program called “accustic phone”. This one I use when my counterpart complains about noise on my side. Instead of BT-connection. Yes, it then uses the phones audio loudspeakers and I have to hold the phone to the HA. The advantage is that I heare the counterpart on both HA’s. It is not as good as the BT-sound-quality, but it helps.
The accustic phone program has to be added by your fitter.
If I’m understanding you - you want to hear your callers voice through BT - but want your voice to go through the iPhone mic. Right? I don’t think that can be done.
OMG…
I have an iPhone SE (1st gen) with a Phonak Paradise (Phonak Naida P70 UP) hearing aids. This phonak (and I think all of newer aid will works like this) can receive my sound throught the aid’s microphone as a wireless “James Bond” set do. (or as the apple’s airpod and the chinese clones do) Well this works very well in silent environment, in an office in a closed car etc. BUT This absolutely useless in a noisy environment or in a public transport or in the street etc. In these cases I want to speaking into the iphone’s microphone because this in close to my lips. I hear my partner throught bt connection in this case too! And I can mute the aid’s microphone and I am in a “silent” and hear my partner absolutely clearly.
Now this is the year of 2021… Why Phonak doesn’t allow this simple operation switch? At least they have to allow me before phone call to select which way want to make a phone call.
You are preaching to the wrong choir here, you need to complain directly to Phonak. And be advised that with the IOS 15 and the correct aids more than likely new creation of hearing aids they will also be able to be totally hands free, not sure if there will be an option to choose between the aids and iPhone then either. It will more than likely be up to the hearing aid companies.
I don’t think it’s fair to blame this on Phonak, but rather iOS. Programatically this isn’t a big deal to switch between two available input sources, no different than when you plug in an audio device to a Windows PC and the OS asks you what you want to do with it, how to configure it, etc.
@adambullock is correct. I went through this with Phonak for my Paradise P90 R hearing aids as well. This is a software limitation that Apple does not permit in iOS. The MFi hearing aids have this option, but Apple will not allow any Bluetooth connected hearing aids to hear through the hearing aids and use the iPhone microphone at the same time.
There used to be somewhere in the app that you could select more background noise or less noise. Those is good when I’m walking on the road and listening to music - I want to hear environment noises around me, like cars etc. In your situation you could turn the background noise to very low so you could hear the person on the other end of your call. All that being said - - I cannot find it in the app. Maybe got changed since app updated to 4.0.3. Maybe someone can identify where that selection is. I looked and couldn’t find it.
I don’t think anymore that Phonak can be blamed for that.
Once the HA is paired to the phone as a device with headset capabilities, the phone no more uses its own mic for phone calls.
And next, when for a phone call the connection was established between phone and HA, the BT protocol does not allow to change this type of connection (back from headset to headphone only functionality).
Finally this also would have to be solved in the phone’s own phone-call-app. A button would be needed to deactivate the HA’s mics and activate the phones mic.
And yes @cvkemp , it is the same situation for Android and IOS.
@Sequoia_Woman: you are right, there are several possibilities to change options for the mics behavior, these are for streaming only (listening music, tv-connector…). But for phone calls the mics cannot be switched off. See my post in:
I had the phonak marvel with ‘classic’ Bluetooth. It uses the hearing aids’ receivers for hearing the phone, and it uses the hearing aids own microphones for talking. I tried these in a steel mill. They were useless. Even in moderate noise, the person with whom I was conversing couldn’t understand me well. I could hear them fine.
No… there is no way to use a separate microphone instead of those of the aids.
You will have to move to another hearing aid brand or a non marvel based line of aids from phonak. None are perfect.
