Hearing aid full replacement prior to warranty expiration

Are you sure? I thought it was only two. I just looked this up and it says pair with 8 and have 2 active connections for ease of switching devices. Don’t quite understand what that means except it sounds like it would not be easy to switch between three devices for example? Perhaps someone else knows and will post.
And I have almost lost my aids in the waste paper basket three times now. Find my HAs could save my HAs. Just sheer luck I was able to find them each time I have lost them so far.

Ah I misunderstood, my mistake.

That’s a shame really as the ComPilot can have 6 paired devices and 4 currently connected.

About where bt came so far, you know more than me :slight_smile: thanks for sharing.

But yeah, I don’t see how mfi would be feasible for phonak since new is on the gate.

I don’t have 3 devices to test exactly, I can only draw conclusions from marvel 1 vs paradise 2 and how they behave.

If for example you paired with 8cor whatever devices, and you’re currently in range of one, HAs will connect to that one, both of them.
If you leave the room and eg go upstairs where another device is on, HAs will connect to it.

Different is when you’re in range of 2 or more paired devices and all have something to share.

Marvel will stay connected to one that was first caught. I have no clue to which it will connect if you come into the room where 2 or more are online and want to connect. Didn’t have that situation.

Paradise will connect to 2. Again no clue what happens when there’s three available at the moment you enter the range.

If you have bt devices off and turn them on, then HA will connect to the one they see first (and second in Paradise case). If you wanted marvels to connect to second device, you had to shut down bt on the first device.
I guess paradise does the same.

Different is that in order to listen from tv, phone and tablet as you go around using them, in marvels you’d also need to go around and shut down bt and turn on bt on the device you want.

With paradises you’d do the same for third device, you’d have to turn off bt on one of previous two connected. That’s what I expect.

However paradises currently have bug that thry5have issues to connect to my laptop if they’re already connected to my phone. So if I turn off phone bt, they connect to laptop, then I turn on bt on phone and they connect there again and have both connected.

If I play YouTube from laptop, goes into my HAs, if I play from phone, goes to my HAs.
I didn’t exactly test what happens when I play on both, I’m under the impression that in HAs will come the one started last.

My suspect is that bt on my laptop is something different and bt on phone is ‘stronger’ and it messes up with chip in paradises. Phone is bt5, lap is 4 something. I’m waiting for bt5 dongle for lap to test that theory.

But once connected, it really works nice.

@Zebras did compilot have any issues about order order of connection? Or they just worked?

Hm, this is a bit weird. I mean, I have to whip my head really vigorously left and right to make it start going out.
I’d check for some security and not phonak to put find my aids :rofl:
I mean, it might never come and you have aids now that you don’t want to lose.

If you have custom molds done some time ago, ear grows, so maybe they don’t hold properly.
Also, for domes, maybe it’s time for bigger ones.
But another option could be concha lock or similar ones.
Or wire that is tied to both and goes around your nexk if aids are some bigger ones, I forgot if you mentioned which type you have.

But they shouldn’t go out from you bending over or something.

Unless you mean they end with papers because you left them on the table?
Then maybe find some nice box or more, make dedicated places around the house and train yourself to leave them only at those places.

Sharing some ideas how to help yourself not losing them.

And I definitely know how trials are exhausting. I must say that I’d go hardware route first, than relying on manufacturers to cover that feature.

I agree with you, if they’re connected to myphonak app one button more that makes them beep loudly shouldn’t be that much work. For that connection phonak uses btle anyway.

If they’re turned off, then they can’t do it anyway.

Actually one aid (Phonak V90s) was sitting on the coffee table because I was lying on that side to watch a movie so I took it out. (Tried HA pillows but they are not comfortable) I picked up something from the coffee table to put in the waste paper bin and must have accidentally picked up the HA with the rubbish item. I have no problem keeping my aids on my ears.:slightly_smiling_face:
But I can forget that one is out if I have been relaxing to watch a movie. Three times over 5 years is not often but when It first happened I had no idea where It was. The find my HA feature would have saved me a lot of worry and searching. Now I know to check the waste basket but that does not mean I won’t misplace one somewhere else next time.
As an aside I also lost my diamond ring in a paper towel when I wiped my hands after hand washing at work and also after visiting family at a hospital - found it again both times in the bin for the paper towel. I don’t wear any rings at the moment.

You really don’t have a luck with bins :rofl:

Glad that you’ve found them every time. I did lose mine all around the tables as well, but then decided I’ll drop them in those two boxes whenever I want to remove them, one in living room and one in bedroom. That helped me definitely.

Didn’t know that HA pillows exist, when I lay down on mine while streaming, I don’t have problem, but I do have that memory foam pillow and I remove glasses when I watch something on my phone in bed, maybe that’s why.

But I agree, adding one button in the app that HA scream back at you shouldn’t be a problem on marvel/paradise platforms since they’re already able to do even hearing test remote. Why they didn’t add such button, I have no clue.

What I’m missing is why you think that MFI is needed for that?

Just tested this, albeit with P90 R now.

If I play on one and start on another, it will switch, but from what I’ve gathered fast only when I have lap play on and start phone, other way won’t switch until I don’t stop phone play.

I believe Marvel’s can pair to 8 devices. I am paired to 5 or 6 without a problem.

In MFi aids that do find my HAs it is like having location services on the aids. You can find them the same way you can a misplaced phone. You do not need to be within hearing distance as you would need to be for a beep sound. And without aids some people will have trouble locating the beep. Also you can program them to recognize a location and set a special program change for that location eg. Music program for your favorite performing arts centre. I found that less useful than the find my aids feature though.

Ok I still don’t understand.

This about arts centre uses what gps on phone to share location with aids and then aids switch program.

But aids don’t have GPS or something in them, plus GPS usually isn’t working inside and definitely not to distinguish in small areas eg if if device is at this or that size of the door / room /desk /basket.

So how that works exactly, do you maybe know?

For misplaced phone so far I know about gps based services, but that’s also ballpark, and not inside flats, and definitely not room distinction.
Or beeping/ringing of some sorts.

So, what I’m missing? Can you share some links for the feature, or videos? I feel like I’m stuck in the past :joy:

Sounds like you do not use an iPhone. With the Linx2 aids I had you would use your iPhone to find the aids. The app would tell you whether you were getting closer or further away once they were close. It sort of guided you to them. Read up on the features of MFi aids eg. The latest ones from Resound. Connecting via low energy signals to stream is not the only feature MFi aids offer. I have not looked it up recently because the Resound aids did not suit me for hearing (microphone noise) so I won’t try to detail them for you. Just be aware that the connectivity is not the only advantage on offer.

Try. https://www.resound.com/en-au/hearing-aids/apps/smart-3d

This is just an example and I have no connection to any HA company.

I had the same warranty with Costco. I sent my Resounds back for warranty repairs close to the end of the warranty. They replaced them with the same model. I reread the original post and I do not see where they replaced them with the newer model. It would not be good business practice to do so

Geofencing on the phone.

The aids don’t know where they are but the phone does. Works just like my Tado heating system. When my phone gets within a certain distance of the house it turns the heating on.

You can set your hearing aids to change listening profile on the same basis, but the Phone does all the fancy GPS.

I just have no idea how this would work.
Maybe by playing hot-cold game like if you’re getting closer or moving away by measuring strength of the signal.

Yeah, don’t own iphone nor anything from apple and never intend to, so I’m not familiar with their tech, just general principles.

Yeah, that was my initial assumption, but when @Psocoptera said it works indoors, and we know that HAs themselves don’t have GPS and GPS doesn’t work indoors to table/room precision, I just didn’t see what else could be.

Until this hint about saying if you’re closer or away.

But I don’t see the reason why it’d need mfi for that, bt or btle should also suffice, eg I don’t see why phonak didn’t give such feature since they have both bt already. Since initial discussion started about mfi being needed for find my aids feature.

I don’t think anyone other than Apple have facilitated that. It has been my experience that Phonak seems to try to keep it simple - I suspect it is because they think of users as predominantly elderly with simple phones. Personally I think that they need to update and cater for the needs of people who are quite comfortable with tech.

That’s not just a perk of Costco hearing aids but every hearing aid I’ve worn in the last 30 years replaced all of the components when sent in just prior to warranty expiration.

Thanks. I guess in the past I wasn’t paying attention at warranty’s end about keeping the same pair going. I hope this will alert folks to give that attention, even if they plan to buy new HAs. Good to have working backups.

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Wait, it’s not feature of the hearing aid app but phone itself?

They are interdependent. Apple provide the capability and the HA company decide to include it in their app. Apple also provide some controls for the HAs with their own system which I think is still triple click on home button.

I use “triple click on Home button” w/ iPhone all the time for the built-in Apple function to control HAs. It’s so simple for most of the functions I need. Also available is the Live Listen function which utilizes the iPhone mic for pickup. Haven’t used in awhile, so forget details.

I looked a bit and found tons of ‘find my bluetooth device’ app on android, so I assume there are similar apps for iphone, so you might look into them if they could help you for those unfortunate deliveries to the waste bin :slight_smile: