#11

Ew. I hope they supply tips. :slight_smile:
So they’re wireless headphones.
If they can somehow output to bluetooth from their sound system then there are neckloop products that can receive the bluetooth and then use the neckloop to transmit to your telecoils. All mono unless you use the ear hooks version. Or maybe your HA’s have bluetooth. Or maybe there’s an mfi broadcast system for facilities to be able to go to mfi HA’s. Or use the HA manufacturer proprietary remote mic/connect clip thingy and place it near an audio speaker. Or an mfi device that you might have up there.

@d_Wooluf: I agree that they’re not at all widespread. They should be. The beauty of the loop to telecoil method is the simple broadcasting and the discrete reception. Bluetooth is still one to one but certainly the same discrete reception. Unlike the headphones in the pic from Deaf_piper. Who knows what the future brings.

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#12

Hi Deaf Piper - It appears you have been misled on hearing loop/telecoil technology by people who might have been considered experts. Contrary to what you read, the technology is alive and well and growing by leaps and bounds. All major airports in Australia, the UK and elsewhere use it (including even all of the ones in Moscow). Performance halls, places of worship and other “places of assembly” throughout the world have hearing loops as do the TV rooms in millions upon millions of homes. Whether you go to the Sidney Opera House, Westminster Abbey or the U.S. Supreme Court you will find a hearing loop present.

Please go to https://www.hearingloss.org/programs-events/get-hearing-loop/ to get up-to-date and accurate information on the technology or visit my website: www.sofnabq.com.

After you’ve researched the websites above please feel free to email me (hlaanm@juno.com) if you have questions.

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#13

Theatre, church, cavern, tourist guide etc. Just need a passworded wifi broadcast and everyone connect to this through a mobile/tablet and its bluetooth. This simple and platform free solution, just need a wifi streamer…

This gadget has line in for anything (microphone, radio, pre amppilified signal etc) , and many others. https://hifimediy.com/Up2stream-Pro-wifi-and-bluetooth-streamer

#14

I’ve only skimmed so apologies if this duplicates

Telecoil is a special antenna ( and related function) built into the aid. It was an option in the marvels, and not automatically in every one.
I opted to get it, but even still the audiologist also had to turn it “on”

These antenna receive a special magnetic signal. That signal comes form either
a) a looped room… a room or area that has an antenna looped around it, that transmits the signal.
or
b) through a radio receiver. This is what my church uses and I think is what they gave you on the cruise ship. My church uses little FM radio receivers that you can either plug in a headphone (or earbuds)… or you can instead plug in a wire loop that hangs around your neck. I bought my own and use it at church. I bought a Listen Technologies LR4200-072. Works great

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#15

@Deaf_piper. Yes, they’re wireless headphones. Possibility 1: They get their sound from magnetic induction (“telecoil”). In that case, you don’t need them because you have telecoil in your hearing aids. Your hearing aids will apply your fitting prescription, so you should get intelligible speech. Possibility 2. They get their sound from some other source eg radio but include a telecoil loop. This enables them to transmit to the telecoil in your aids.

@hlaanm. Was that about me? At least we probably agree that it should have been mandated for cinemas and many other public places. There definitely needs to be something. I’m reminded that Apple stopped producing phones that supported telecoil on the grounds that mfi was sufficient. You gotta love Apple. Kudos on your advocacy work.

#16

I have skimmed this too.

1 - the loop is installed in the venue… It is basically a big wire circuit… it will NOT be something handled by a person…it is part of the infrastructure of the building.
2 - if the hearing aid has built in telecoil abilities, switching to the telecoil mode/program will connect to that loop. The whole thing is dumb technology. The electrical signals are sent out on the loop, using something called electromagnetic induction, the signals are transferred to the tele-coil receiver in the hearing aid.
3 - sound quality will be approximately that of an AM radio station in a properly done loop.

You use your own hearing aids. The loop is installed in the building. You walk in, activate telecoil mode. There is nothing else to it.

#17

One can install a loop in his or her own home relatively inexpensively. Europe has such a HUGE advantage over the USA in this type of thing.

#18

Sound quality will be equal an AM radio broadcast because the transmission is absolutely same. The only one different, there is missing the tuner which selects the stations. However you receive the full band, hear the strongest signal with a weak receiver in the center of a strong signal circle.

I dont understand why not contain a simply telecoil receiver and a simple 3,5"jack the BT transmitters with a battery for working 1 week. Not just half or a day…This would be a very simple solution. Resound has this gadget.

#19

If you’re still on the cruise and want to try and make use of this device I can think of two options. This is really just an assisted listening device anyone could use w/o any hearing aids necessary. It will just amplify whatever sounds it picks up, which presumably your hearing aids may be doing already equally.

1- if your hearing loss is minimal, just use this device in your ears directly w/o aids and turn volume all the way up.

2 - Switch aids to t-coil and put the earbuds directly on/near your hearing aid (not in your ears). You may have to position it oddly to get best sound pickup. It might not be most ideal but in most cases it will pick up some level of sounds which may or may not help.

#20

The Multi-Mic… yes …it is a stellar gadget.

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#21

Not necessarily. A t-coil offers crystal clear reception when tied to a hearing loop. They where included in every hearing aid I have used. They also tie into land line phones that are commonly used in business office. They just have to have a t-coil rating 4 is best. It needs to be turned on by audiologists or fitter. Hearing Loops are found in movie theater, convention halls conferences. Some have a device that hangs on your neck to allow the t-coil to form a loop. There is a video that shows this and the difference in sound.

#22

I run a small independent cinema in the UK and we have a system that works as follows. The customer is given a small receiver which hangs around their neck. This receiver picks up any sound track that goes through the cinema sound system via a radio transmitter. The customer will have their own personal loop system as the device will transmit the sound to their T-Coil enabled HAs. It works much better than our older system of the wire around the auditorium.

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#23

That is becoming used more in the states. I was at a theater before Covid shut everything down and they used that system it is awesome. I glad you brought it up. It does work great. Thank you.

#24

The ship apparently has a Sennheiser wireless sound system. You should ask for a Sennheiser receiver with a neckloop or a 3.5mm jack to which you can connect a neckloop

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If you have a streamer with a 3.5mm jack for your HAs, you could connect it to the appropriate Sennheiser receiver in the same way as I connect my ReSound (MultiMic) streamer to a Sennheiser receiver
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Update: Sorry, just found out that it’s a very old thread.

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#25

I seen this setup it Is different. I had good results with it. I not sure how it would work with my new hearing aids.

#26

I use a phonak loop/compilot. I have got it to work perfectly on three devices, all streaming. I cN hear voices perfectly when they are streamed through the look from, say a phone or laptop. I struggle to hear through my hearing aids, which is deeply frustrating. I cannot accept how sound through an induction loop can be so superior I am looking at possible solutions to listen to voices, through the loop. Tried is 14.?, but there is still a lot of latency which makes it unintelligible.
Any ideas out there?

Rgds

Geoff

#27

You might consider getting a Roger receiver to plug into the Compilot and get a Roger Pen to go with it. That way anybody who speaks into the Roger Pen woud have their voice streamed to you.

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#28

I have a roger select. It sort of works, but I get a lot of distortion from it. Tend to lock onto loud voices which you are not even trying to listen to. What is your experience of the pen?

#29

I just mentioned the pen because they can be obtained for less money than the Select. I’m thinking your Select may need some adjustments in the settings.

#30

Geoff:
Can you clarify?

  1. Do you have a telecoil that your specialist has “activated”?
  2. Did he/she demonstrate hearing through a loop in their office?
  3. You should be able to hear the clarity that people above have mentioned. Also, there is no latency or battery drain.
  4. If not, Verifying telecoil levels - 2 slides.pdf (616.5 KB) ask that he/she “verify” your telecoil level, per these slides from HLAA.

Hope that helps.