Technical data about hearing aids

Why is it so hard to find technical data about hearing aids, it seems that Oticon is the only hearing aids that I can find the technical data that I am looking for. Is it just me not knowing where to find the data on the other hearing aid companies’s websites.

For phonak, have you looked at the phonak pro site?

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yes I can find a few things but nothing like I can find on the Oticon site. I am a retired IT professional and I want to see the stuff that engineers see.

Yes it can be hard to find. Sadly the hearing aid industry from manufactures to the majority of retail outlets ENT / Audiology clinics (with Audiologists - PhD in audiology) to the company owned (Beltone, Miracle Ear etc.) to Hearing Centers (H.I.S. usually with or without true degree-ed Audiologist), and of course the Veterans Administration usually do not provide much info for us tech savvy users. (I have no VA experience, I know you know that as well or better than anyone on this site. I never served, however, I am eternally grateful for those who did. Thank you for your service.)

One needs to dig around on the consumer website and look for the “Pro/professional” link, often very obscure. Sometimes in a top menu banner, most often buried way down at the bottom of page or deeper.

For example, ReSound since I wear them.

Way, way down at the bottom, under a bright “Locations” section, is a smaller font and non-highlighted link “For professioals” that goes here.

Then one has to dig into the specific hearing aid models and the tech sheets are there, just not easy to find.

I am trying to figure out what aids I want to try and maybe get this summer. I go back to the VA on the first of June and I know my Audi is going to ask me what aids I want this time around. I can find a little bite of information about the Phonak Marvels, and I am interested in them. But with my experience with the Oticon OPN platform and my love for it I am going to be hard pressed to accept anything else. the Oticon OPNS platform is a little improved over the OPN but I cannot see it as enough to want to upgrade to it over what I have. I know I will be keeping my OPN1 aids as my backup but it would be ashame if I ended up using my backup over my new aids.

Digging through the Phonak Pro site and find many hearing aid tech detail, but the Virto B, not the Virto Black that you have discussed wanting to try. Is the Virto B the same as the Virto Black, likely not since the availability to the public is February 19th, six days away.

The Virto Marvel/Black is what I will be interested in. I am hoping it has the same tech as the Marvel does. I am hoping for aids that can auto switch to the programs that I need. I hate trying to remember what program I need to switch too. I want hearing aids that allow me to be as near normal as possible. I am off today, but the days I volunteer, I go from the class room, to the phone bank, to greeting Veterans one on one, and back and forth for the time that I am there, most days I do not have time to think about what my aids are set to, much less go to the bathroom.

I have looked into the Virto Black a little also. Very little information on them. While looking the Virto B came up a number of times. The Virto B is last generation Beyond I believe.

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Might help to define what technical data you are looking for. I think most HA OEM’s do not figure that the average “normal” user will be looking for technical data. OTH, HCP’s can go to Audiology Online, for example, in addition to the various company websites, to take webinars, etc., for continuing education credits, etc. (and people like us who just want to learn more can audit the courses for free). That’s more than just technical details. That’s exact instructions on how to fit using the fitting software, sometimes with case examples of how a fitting/social problem was addressed.

Don’t know about Oticon but out of the box, ReSound’s Smart Fit software provides a lot of details and explanations about one’s hearing instruments and the purposes of various fitting parameters.

I just want to see the frequency charts and power charts. I have no desire to program my own aids. I just want to see what any other true electronics and software engineer wants to see

For ReSound Quattro’s that information is included in the printed user manual that comes with the devices as well as being easy to find in the online PDF versions of the manual. So I’m not sure where you get the idea that Oticon is special in having easy to find information. See starting at page 54 of the Quattro rechargeable user manual, for example (and this is an ordinary USER link, not the PRO website):

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What about installing fitting programs, enter your audiogram and let the software offer suitable hearingaids? In Target (Phonak) you can then view details about the aids and see the fitting range for each offered aid.

I don’t own a windows computer and the software only works on windows

You’re right. That’s a a bad thing. I start Windows in a VM without any network-connection just because there is no other way to program my HAs for myself. I do not need Windows for anything else.

I run the Oticon Genie2 v19.2 software on a 6 year old Mac Mini using VirtualBox and Windows 7. This combo works great and is just as responsive as the Windows systems used by the VA Audiologists.

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Are you lookinf for this sort of stuff:

Or this sort of stuff:

thank you so much that works.