What does “brighter” vs “Fuller” sound mean?
Is there a document that describes what these built-in profiles do? I have not heard of Comfort, Lecture nor the “Auto Phone” you mentioned later.
Brighter will give emphasis to higher frequency sounds, and Fuller will give more emphasis to lower frequency sounds. It’s the equivalent of more treble or more bass.
Try this link The Opn Family: Meeting Even More Audiological Needs - AudiologyOnline
For those who don’t want to bother, the snippet from the link that talks about it is below. It doesn’t really say much details about each of them. The best way to know is to download the Genie 2 software, install it on our computer, create a client profile (yours) and add in your audiogram, then go to the Fitting section, select Program Manager, then for programs 2, 3, and 4, select the listening program you want (see example in second picture below), then go through each of the listening program as selected to see what’s turned on and what’s turned off for them to get an idea.
But for example, if you pick Music for P4 like the example below, if you go to the OpenSound Navigator page, you’ll find that Noise Reduction is turned off, and the directionality setting is “Pinna Omni”. In the Automatics page, you’ll find that Transient Noise Management is turned off. In the Fine Tuning page, if you click on the CR (Compression Ratio) button, you’ll see the compression ratio value, and you’ll notice that the values in the Music program are lower than the values, say, in the Speech in Noise program…
On the reverse, if you select P3 (Speech in Noise), you’ll find that in OpenSound Navigator, Noise Reduction is set to On, Directionality is set to “Open Automatic”, OpenSound Transition is set to High help. In the Automatics, you’ll see the Transient Noise Management set to Medium or High (depending on your profile preference selection from another page).
Anyway, that’s the only effective way to understand how each of the built-in program is set -> walk through all the parameters in Genie 2 and see what those values are set to and you’ll find that they should be set to values that are consistent with the corresponding program if you were to build up such a program yourself.
Maybe there’s a “report” page in Genie 2 that dumps out all these parameters set for each program all on a condensed page, although I’m aware of a way, but I’m still very new to Genie 2.
Hi:
Sorry to disturb you. How is called that Oticon software?
Is compatible with Windows 10?.
I ask you this because I am looking for a future substitute for my Siemens Pure 701. And after reading much info in this forum, I think the best option for me it could be the OPN1.
Regards
jpeinado
The Oticon programming software is called Genie. Before the OPN, it was Genie 1, but for the OPN, it’s now Genie 2. It’s compatible with Windows 10. That’s what I’m using, on my Windows 10 laptop.
You can search the DIY forum or find PVC’s avatar and click on it to follow his links to instruction on where to download Genie 2. Or here’s the link if you’re lazy to search: How to find Fitting Software to Program Your Hearing Aids [DIY]
Thank you Volusiano.
One more question.
I have thi HiPro, the CS44 cables, and the flex strips for my Siemens Pure 701.
Do you know if Genie2 and the OPN1 are compatible with HiPro?
If yes, I think I will only need to buy the flex strips.
Thank you very much for your help
I’ll need to defer this to @pvc for a definitive answer, but my guess is yes, you can use the HiPro with the CS44 cables and the flex strips that would work for the OPN, then you’re all set.
Thank you very much
jpeinado
Yes, you can work with HiPro with his cables. What you need for connection directly to the OPN HA is the flexcable, called flexstripe: http://www.thehearingclub.com/Programming-Adapter-size-312-13-or-FLEX-STRIPS-Comes-with-two-adapters_p_285.html
For Oticon either of the 2 options listed will work.
Flex strips or the programing adaptors?
I know PVC haS Info on this available but I’m still a lil confused. I have phonak CS44 cables. Without hacking them up will they work for Oticon OPN?
Yes standard CS44 cables will work. Phonak CS44a cables will not work.
Flex strips should not be confused with programming pills. The picture you linked to is a programming pill with a battery-sized pill on the end. The flex strip has just a flat strip on the end. It’s the small picture in the link you provided. It looks like this;
Flex Strip
mini Pro and Hi Pro are interchangeable. Sameo, Sameo.
To be precise; Genie software supports older models while the newer Oticon Genie 2 supports newer models (beginning with Opn). Downloading Genie 2 gets you both versions but if you want to run the old version instead of running the default new Genie 2 version then you need to choose a separate .exe file in order to run the old version.
You’re right, the first picture shows the cable with programming pills (for eg Siemens pure 701), but if you click at the last small picture below the big picture, you will see the correct FlexStrip (the page makes a little confusion).
Because they are for phonak that means they are CS44A correct? Even though there is no A on the cable.
As if that wasn’t enough. See that little double-Circle icon in the middle of the left-pane and right-pane. You can select that or deselect it to set values for both ears; Or to set individual values for the left ear and the right ear.
https://forum.hearingtracker.com/uploads/default/original/2X/2/282991028d343458d9e58b038646b7e2190d58ed.png
Visit my Audiologist yesterday afternoon and got changed done thanks to this thread. Notably:
- added a music and speech-in-noise profile
- for phone streaming, lowered the mic volume and bumped overall loudness one level
- changed my left dome from a open dome to a okenhat is more closed but less occluded that a bass dome. I don’t know what it’s called so included a photo. It feels less occluded and while it doesn’t eliminate feedback noise completely when I put my hand to my ear, it reduces the “squeal” by probably 2/3 compared to open dome. I’m trying it out to see if I can get used to it.
